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all right everybody hello how you doing i'm brad lestie and this is the Other People Show. I'm in Los Angeles. It's good to be with you. I have on the program today, Matthew Specter. He is back for a second time. It's been a number of years since I talked with him, and I'm pleased to have him back as a guest as he celebrates the publication of a new book

called Always Crashing in the Same Car, on Art, Crisis, and Los Angeles, California.

It is available from Tin House, and it is superb.

It's a book that defies easy categorization. It's an essay collection. It's a

memoir. It's a work of cultural history. There might even be a little bit of cultural criticism

sprinkled in there. And it's greater, you know, it's greater than the sum of its parts. I love

this book. I looked forward to it every day. I didn't want it to end. I got sad when it

ended. And I'm pleased to share the news of it with you and to have the chance to share this

conversation with Matthew Spector. That is coming up momentarily. Today's episode is made possible

by Custom House Books, publisher of the new novel Apple Seed by Matt Bell.

Kelly Link calls Apple Seed, quote, as urgent as it is audacious.

And Karen Russell calls it, quote, a work of incandescent imagination.

Matt Bell is a Young Lions Fiction Award finalist. This is his breakout book. It explores

climate change, manifest destiny, humanity's unchecked exploitation of natural resources,

and the small but powerful magic contained within every single apple. The novel is set in 18th century

Ohio, in 2020's United States and a thousand years

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