Welcome to the Paul Tripp podcast where pastor and bestselling author Dr. Paul David

Tripp connects the transforming power of Jesus Christ to everyday life.

In this week's connecting clip of the week, Paul and guest, Alistair Groves, do a counseling

case study together, and were given insight into how a biblical counselor thinks.

To hear more of this conversation with biblical counselor Alistair Groves, check out the Connecting Podcast episode 35, wherever you listen to podcasts.

You can also watch the video on Paul Tripp's YouTube channel or Facebook page.

Here's Paul with Alistair Groves.

So I want you to put on your counselor hat,

and I want to give you a vignette,

and pull apart by what these people have values.

So a couple's in the family van and guys driving the street and his wife says to him, why do you

drive so jerky?

You always drive jerky.

It's like I'm on a carnival ride.

Why can't you drive like a normal road?

Smoother.

Like, you know, other people drive.

And he says, well, who made you the driver of the world?

You want me just pull alongside the road and and you can drive. Oh,

queen of smooth driving. And she says, you see, I can't, I can't talk to you. So talk about value.

Oh my, yes. Well, for starters, this is not the beginning of the problem.

So I know that I'm entering it.

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