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Coaching for Leaders

711: Turning Down the Temperature on Outrage, with Karthik Ramanna

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Karthik Ramanna: The Age of Outrage
Karthik Ramanna is a professor of business and public policy at University of Oxford’s Blavatnik School of Government, where he has served as director of one of the world’s most diverse leadership programs. Previously a professor at Harvard Business School, he studies how organizations and leaders build trust with stakeholders. He is the author of The Age of Outrage: How to Lead in a Polarized World.

In a lot of ways, leadership is better than it was a generation ago. One way that it isn’t better? Figuring out how to lead effectively in an increasingly polarized world. In this conversation, Karthik and I explore what leaders can do to turn down the temperature on outrage.
Key Points

We tend to frame effective leadership as heroic. In times of outrage, the virtue of temperance becomes essential.
A leader will never fully address the demands made of them, regardless of how well they act.
Even when a leader resolves problems, they will be viewed as part of the problem.
Anticipate times of outrage and create spaces that calm people physically and help them connect with each other.
Establish rules of engagement outside moments of outrage so that you have a starting point.
Create pre-arranged workgroups that can help illuminate a path forward for the larger organization.

Resources Mentioned

The Age of Outrage: How to Lead in a Polarized World by Karthik Ramanna

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0:00.0

In a lot of ways, leadership is better than it was a generation ago.

0:04.9

One way that it's not, though, is figuring out how to lead in an increasingly polarized world.

0:11.4

In this episode, what leaders can do to turn down the temperature on outrage.

0:18.2

This is Coaching for Leaders, Episode 711.

0:22.5

Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.

0:31.3

Greetings to you from Orange County, California. This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahoviac. Leaders aren't born.

0:40.7

They're made. And this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful

0:46.5

conversations. And one of the things that all of us are running into in many of our conversations

0:52.4

and we're experiencing as a reality of the

0:55.2

world that we're living in is a bit more outrage than we have dealt with in the past.

1:01.3

And how do we as leaders do a better job at turning down the temperature just a bit on

1:07.0

outrage?

1:07.7

Today, a guest who's going to help us to do that to take the first steps and be

1:12.5

able to do that better for our organizations and hopefully a bit better for the world, too.

1:17.1

I'm so pleased to welcome Karthek Bramana. He is a professor of business and public policy

1:22.1

at University of Oxford's Blavatnik School of Government, where he has served as director

1:27.2

of one of the world's

1:28.5

most diverse leadership programs. Previously, a professor at Harvard Business School, he

1:33.1

studies how organizations and leaders build trust with stakeholders. He is the author of

1:38.5

The Age of Outrage, How to Lead in a Polarized World. Carthick, I wish that wasn't the title of the book,

1:45.6

but that is the reality of where we are, isn't it?

1:47.8

I'm so glad to have you here.

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