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Intersectionality Matters!

71. Why Authoritarians Fear Education

Intersectionality Matters!

Intersectionality Matters with Kimberlé Crenshaw

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4.7814 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by authors Jason Stanley and Randi Weingarten to discuss why authoritarians and fascists target education on the path to destabilizing democracy. They unpack how book bans, attacks on teachers, and efforts to erase history from public institutions threaten the democratic project, and what we can do to fight back. Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw, produced by Kevin Minofu, Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards, and the team at AAPF Find more on our show and the African American Policy Forum at aapf.org News clips from Tamron Hall and WJHL, CTV News Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Check out our special series on the attack against CRT and DEI called United States of Amnesia: The Real Histories of Critical Race Theory

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0:00.0

I'm Kimberly Crenshaw, and this is Intersectionality Matters.

0:05.0

The podcast that brings intersectionality to life by exploring the hidden dimensions of today's most pressing issues,

0:13.0

from say her name to the war on woke, DEI and CRT, and the global rise of fascism.

0:20.0

This idea Trave-Log lifts up the work of leading activists, artists, and scholars, and helps listeners

0:26.5

understand politics, the law, social movements, and even their own lives in deeper, more nuanced

0:33.1

ways.

0:38.8

The one lesson from history that everyone should know is that just because you have restaurants

0:44.4

and bars and a salary doesn't mean you have freedom.

0:50.5

This is Jason Stanley.

0:53.2

Jason is a philosopher who's taught all over the world, most recently at Yale, and now at the University of Toronto.

1:01.0

They will tell you that you are free because you can go to the movies, because you can meet your friends at the restaurant.

1:09.3

But freedom means more than that.

1:11.4

He's also the author of the book Erasing History,

1:14.3

How Fascists Rewrite the Past to Control the Future.

1:18.1

If you're a longtime listener,

1:20.1

you'll know that Jason and I are both vocal proponents

1:23.1

of using history to understand the present.

1:26.0

The two of us have had many conversations over the years about dictatorships, fascism,

1:31.6

and how dangerous it is that so many people in America think that these are problems that

1:37.2

have nothing to do with us.

1:39.4

Freedom means not being afraid to say what you think about the state of the country on social media

1:47.7

to your friends and letters to the editor to your students.

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