709: A Rabbi and a Priest Walk into a Podcast with Father James Martin
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.5 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2026
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
Many of our political leaders invoke the Bible, but Rabbi Shai Held says many don't understand one of its most important commands. Rabbi Held argues that Scripture's call to love immigrants was a "moral revolution" and says the mistreatment of immigrants is an abomination in God's eyes. Skye interviews Father James Martin about his new memoir, "Work in Progress," about his journey from the business world to the priesthood. They also discuss the link between Jesuit spirituality and Protestant theology, and they get nerdy about Jesus and temple theology. Also this week—the rise of non-denoms, and Phil wants cornhole in the Olympics.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:15 - Theme Song
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5:55 - Winter Olympics!
15:06 - A Rabbi's Op-Ed on Immigration
27:45 - More Life-Saving Aid Cut
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54:55 - Interview
57:03 - How Father Martin Became a Jesuit Priest
1:04:53 - Post-Secularism
1:15:02 - The Woman at the Well
1:27:46 - End Credits
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. Many of our political leaders like to invoke the Bible, but Rabbi |
| 0:05.0 | Held says many don't understand one of its most important commands. He argues that scriptures |
| 0:09.8 | call to love immigrants was a moral revolution and that the mistreatment of immigrants is an |
| 0:15.1 | abomination in God's eyes. Today we discuss his editorial in the New York Times. Then I interview |
| 0:20.7 | Father James Martin about his new memoir, Work and Progress, about his editorial in the New York Times. Then I interview Father James Martin about his new |
| 0:22.3 | memoir, Work and Progress, about his journey from the business world to the priesthood. We also |
| 0:27.4 | discuss the link between Jesuit spirituality and Protestant theology, and we get nerdy about |
| 0:32.4 | Jesus and Temple theology. Also this week, The Rise of Nondonams and Phil wants cornhole in the Olympics. |
| 0:39.6 | Hey, there's a ton of fun stuff happening over at Holy Post Plus right now. In fact, the |
| 0:43.4 | conversation over there's exploded in the last week because of my bonus interview with Joshua |
| 0:47.4 | Harris and the recent Skypot episode I recorded with Caitlin about Harry Potter. And also this |
| 0:53.2 | week, I have a bonus interview with |
| 0:54.7 | Father James Martin about his advocacy for LGBTQ Catholics. So if you're not part of Holy Post Plus |
| 1:00.8 | yet, you need to get over there now and join the conversation. You'll get access to all the |
| 1:05.5 | stuff we make at Holy Post Media. You'll get to interact with other Holy Posters, and you'll be |
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| 1:11.2 | smart, orthodox pro-neighbor content. You can sign up at holypost.com slash plus. And right now, |
| 1:17.7 | we're offering a free one-week trial. So head over to holypost.com and sign up today. Here is episode |
| 1:24.1 | 709. Hey there, welcome back to The Holy Post Podcast. |
| 1:28.6 | I'm Phil Vischer. |
| 1:29.5 | I'm here with Kailen Shess. |
| 1:32.5 | Say hi, Kailen. |
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