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As part of our Art of Living Interview series, we have an excellent program about sex,

drugs, and the pilot season for Television and Theatre, our guest today is long-time

starmaker, casting director and author Joel Thurm.

Joel Thurm is a Hollywood casting director and he's written the new book Sex, Drugs,

and Pilot Season Confessions of a Casting Director.

Thank you so much for listening.

We have got a great guest today who I will introduce in just a moment, but quickly if you

missed any episodes, last week was our 707th episode when I spoke to Smithsonian

Associate, former National Park Ranger and Historian John Martinium we talked about

the infamous Alcatraz Island.

Two weeks ago I spoke to returning guest biblical scholar and New York Times best-selling

author, Dr. Bart Airman.

Excellent subjects for our Not Old Better Show audience if you missed those shows along

with any others you can go back and check them out, along with my entire back catalog

of shows all free for you there on our website, not old-better.com.

From his humble beginnings growing up on his grandfather's dairy farm in Brooklyn, New

York, Joel Thurm became one of the most admired, powerful, and accomplished casting directors

in Hollywood early on.

Joel Thurm's instincts proved beyond reproach when he recognized John Travolta as much

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