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I'm Paul. I'm Todd, and this is the Everyday Driver Car debate.

Hello everybody, welcome back, and I also have to say welcome back to you, Paul, because the last podcast was chance, and you're back.

I'm back. I was in Texas at the Toyota HQ Confidential event, and they actually did get confidential.

They brought everybody into a room and showed off two models.

Took away your phones.

They put them in little baggies that are, you know, they sealed them hermetically.

That always makes me laugh.

Yeah, put your phone here.

Well, it reminded me of being in design studios when they would take your phone and put the stickers over everything and keep them and all that stuff.

What I find funny is you take everybody's phones away, and I'm including myself.

We don't know what to do with our hands anymore.

We're confused.

I don't have a photo in my hand.

I've been lost without my phone.

We're conditioned as autojournalists that you put a car in front of us and we take a picture at least with our phone.

So now you got a bunch of people standing around, can't take pictures.

You've taken away all of our skills.

People were truly like, what do I do now?

I'm just a lost kidding.

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