706: The Second Slap plus Leah Libresco Sargeant
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.5 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 4 February 2026
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
We've all heard the stories of people raised within American evangelicalism who became disillusioned because of abuse, scandals, or political idolatry. Some migrated to more progressive church traditions while others deconstructed their faith entirely. Joshua Harris, made famous for his seminal purity culture book "I Kissed Dating Goodbye," was in the latter category. Harris now says he is emerging from "a season of overcorrection," having seen the "bully energy" in progressive spaces, and that he is curious about Jesus again. Then, Katilyn talks to feminist author Leah Libresco Sargeant about her provocative new book, "The Dignity of Dependence." Also this week—new signs of hope as cities, states, and courts are resisting ICE.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:46 - Theme Song
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8:38 - Child Returned from I.C.E. Custody
19:43 - Josh Harris Second Slap
34:15 - Faith in Church vs. Faith in Christ
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52:32 - Interview
55:17 - Defining Feminism
1:05:42 - Autonomy vs Meaning
1:23:28 - End Credits
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. We've all heard the stories of people raised within American |
| 0:04.2 | evangelicalism who've been disillusioned because of abuse, scandals, or political idolatry. |
| 0:10.1 | Some have migrated to more progressive church traditions, while others have deconstructed their |
| 0:14.6 | faith entirely. Joshua Harris made famous for his seminal purity book, I Kiss Dating Goodbye, |
| 0:20.6 | was in the latter category. |
| 0:22.5 | Harris now says he is emerging from a season of overcorrection, having seen the bully energy |
| 0:27.9 | in progressive spaces, and that he's curious about Jesus again. Then Caitlin talks the feminist |
| 0:33.7 | author Leah Librescoe Sargent about her provocative new book, The Dignity of Dependence. |
| 0:39.5 | Also this week, new signs of hope as cities, states, and courts are resisting ice. |
| 0:45.4 | Hey, if you haven't heard yet, Holy Post Media has launched a brand new show called Advice-ish. |
| 0:50.6 | It's our version of an advice column where our hosts and pundits respond to your questions, |
| 0:55.4 | conundrums, and difficult life situations. |
| 0:58.1 | On recent episodes, we've talked about how to find a good church, when to leave a church, |
| 1:02.4 | how to discern your calling, dealing with political divisions in your family. |
| 1:05.9 | We even get into financial questions, like how much to tithe and whether it's okay to spend |
| 1:10.5 | money on a |
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