Take the victim to a place where they have more privacy and control.

Victims go to trauma, you know, asking who we were, why are quizzes, it's not really accurate.

It is perfectly fine and constitutional for the police to tell a suspect that they have that kind of evidence when they don't.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, retired FBI profiler and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds.

And with me today remotely from New York City is...

Hi everybody, it's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor. I have switched the sides of the country with Jim to Jim's hometown. Jim everyone here knows you.

Well, I don't know about that, but I know it when there. So one way or the other. But anyway, I do miss New York, but I'm really excited because today in the studio, in XG Production Studio, we have a very special guest returning and that is...

It is Kevin McNeill, former detective of 20 years with the Capcom police department in Atlanta, Georgia and the owner of the 12th project.

Wow, well that's awesome. So we're grateful to have you back here Kevin and we can't wait to just dive into another one of your best or worst cases because we know that you always tell an amazing story.

Thank you so much. I appreciate that Jim. This is good to be in studio in LA.

That's great.

He does and I have to say Jim on behalf of our female listeners, I suspect some of their hearts are going pitter pat.

And I hope that doesn't offend you Kevin, but we had so many women right in after your last couple of episodes with us and say that they just loved hearing your southern draw.

Oh wow, I like that. I thank you. Thank you. That's first time I've ever heard that.

No lagging criticize for, but now I'm feeling in that.

Good.

Thank you so much.

Well, Kevin, can you please bring us in our audience to the point in your career that the case you're about to talk to us occurred?

Yes, I was a fairly undetected. I probably was a detective for about four or five years.

And at this point in my career, I began to learn a lot on my own, learn to go my good instincts and learn to not just look for things that were obvious.

And at this point, I was really excited about working cases. I was very enthused about it. I wanted to hire cases. I wanted the ones that other people couldn't solve.

So I would ask them, give me that case. You know, I'll detect the local planning. I was in my career. Wow. I was chasing down cases.

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