The first time I heard Kanye West on Jesus Walks in 2004, there was something about the way that he spoke about Jesus and the way that he approached things in a manner which he was using a kind of gangster language about about hustlers and gangsters and all of this but he was strangely

flipping it in a manner to bring it almost into a strange gospel song the first

time I heard that I started to pay attention to Kanye West and I have been

paying attention to him from far from a certain distance since. And so I was not completely surprised to see what

is happening with him recently, though I am, can I say this? I am happy to see my attention

pay off. And so I'm going to try to explain to you what's going on to the extent that I can understand in terms of

Kanye's new album and in terms of this strange social moment that we're in, how it all

fits together and how when the world is upside down, we need to pay attention to the fools.

And now is the time to pay attention to the fools. And now is the time to pay attention

to someone like Kanye.

This is Jonathan Peugeot.

Welcome to the symbolic world.

So I just got back from Chicago. I was in Chicago for the weekend giving a talk at St. John Cansch's Church. I'll

be putting those talks up as soon as they're ready. And there was something of a strange coming

together of elements that I was going to Chicago during that time that on Sunday, this traditional

church was celebrating a feast called Christ the King, and that Kanye

West that just put up his album called Jesus is King, all of this, and that Kanye is from Chicago

and talked about Chicago all the time, all of these elements were kind of coming together.

And so in my talk, I discussed Kanye and the relationship to sacred art.

You'll have to watch that talk to get the full relationship to sacred art,

but I thought it would be important to go into what is going on because it's happening now.

This is the moment that this album came out and that Kanye is making waves in the culture.

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