Hey, friends, welcome to the Natasha Crane podcast.

My guest today is Dr. Josh Mulveyhill, and we have a conversation that I cannot wait to share with you about problems with today's kids and youth ministry.

I know that sounds kind of negative up front, but I'm going to be honest with you, one of the biggest, most popular conversations that I am seeing between parents and grandparents and other stakeholders in the church today is what to do about kids and youth ministry, because there are a lot of challenges. We're not going to just talk about the challenges. We're going to talk about the solutions and what you need to be concerned with as a parent or grandparent or any other stakeholder in the church.

So I'm really excited to share this conversation with you a little bit of background on my guest.

Dr. Josh Mulby Hill is the executive director of church and family ministry at Renewa Nation.

He served as a pastor for nearly 20 years and currently serves on the board at

Awana. He holds a PhD from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and is the author of

several books, including one that is especially important for our conversation today called

Family Ministry, How Your Church Can Shepard Parents and Grandparents to Make Disciples. Josh is

married to Jen and they have five

children. Before we jump into the interview, I want to let you know that today's episode is sponsored

by Summit Ministries. Summit is an organization that for 60 years has equipped and supported

rising generations to embrace God's truth and champion a biblical worldview. I think you guys know that

now more than ever our children need to be winsome and brave in the face of culture's lies.

And as we're going to talk about in this episode, as parents, we know that we are the primary

disciples of our kids. And yet there are some really amazing opportunities to have others

come alongside us in this journey of equipping our kids for today.

And that's why I sent my own kids to summits in-person camps.

They have camps in both Colorado in South Carolina where you can send kids ages 16 to 22.

And they're a two-week summer camps where they get extensive worldview and apologetics

training from top Christian thinkers and speakers. For younger kids, age of 13 and up, they even

have an online conference option now. So if you want to learn more about what Summit has to offer,

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