7 Habits of People Who Make Other People Better (w/ Jon Gordon)
Chasing Excellence
Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 1 June 2026
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
What if becoming extraordinary isn't really about your own habits — it's about the habits you build that make everyone around you better?
In this episode, we sit down with Jon Gordon, author of 33 books and 18 bestsellers, to explore seven habits that transform ordinary people into the kind of person others genuinely want to be around.
We explore how the ratio of positive to negative interactions determines whether your relationships thrive, why shouting praise and whispering criticism builds deeper trust than you'd expect, and how the abundance mindset — giving freely, making the pie bigger, winning the person instead of the argument — creates energy that lifts everyone in your orbit.
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| 0:00.0 | Before we jump into today's episode, I invite you to join us in the Chase Club. |
| 0:05.3 | Two reasons why I would love for you to consider it. |
| 0:07.5 | The first reason is that it is where we can do the daily work to fight back against the |
| 0:12.3 | drift of modern life, something we've talked about quite a bit lately and something I'm really |
| 0:16.9 | excited to help you do better. |
| 0:19.9 | Inside the Chase Club is where we can do that and the second reason |
| 0:22.9 | is the show wouldn't exist without people jumping in and doing a little bit more than just listening |
| 0:30.5 | if you've been with us for a while and you want to make sure we continue to get to make this show |
| 0:35.5 | jumping into the chase club is the best way to do so. |
| 0:39.2 | You can learn about what you get inside the Chase Club at chasingexcellance. |
| 0:42.7 | Email slash about or just click the link in the show notes. |
| 0:47.2 | Okay, let's get into the show. |
| 0:53.7 | Hello and welcome back with chasing excellence. |
| 0:56.6 | Thank you so much for being here. |
| 0:58.5 | I'm Patrick. |
| 0:59.2 | I'm here, as always with Ben. |
| 1:00.7 | We're joined. |
| 1:01.7 | We're excited about this. |
| 1:03.0 | We're joined by John Gordon. |
| 1:04.5 | How you doing, John? |
| 1:05.8 | Doing great, guys. |
| 1:06.6 | How you doing? |
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