Hey, what's up? It's Ben Greenfield. I feel like crap. I feel like complete crap right

now because I lied to you. I didn't lie to you. I just, I mean, error last week when

I was talking about electrical muscle stimulation and a, a, a stu- listener wrote in and for me

that I was an error. And it turns out I was. I was talking about an electrical stimulation

device called a Mark Pro and I said, a had a square wave form that was really good for

healing tissue, but it's actually not the square wave form. The square wave form is the

one that all the other electrical muscle stimulation units have. The, the Mark Pro is what's called

the dynamic decaying wave form, not a square wave form. There, I can sleep at night now. And so

can you. I know you were laying awake at night wondering about that. So what else? I just

got back from the ultra beast in Lake Tahoe, the Spartan Ultra Beast, 30 plus miles of obstacles

and barbed wire crawls and cold weather, water dunks. It was, it was a fun time. And I just wrote

a report on that over at Ben Greenfield Fitness.com and also recorded a podcast about that over

at obstacle dominator.com. That's where I have my, my fun slash explicit slash controversial

obstacle racing podcast. So you can go to obstacle dominator.com if you want to listen to that.

Today we're going to be interviewing. We, it's actually me. You just have to listen. I have to get to

interview. Dr. John Roussen, we talk about these really fringe physical therapy techniques and

regeneration tactics for your body that a lot of people people don't know about, but that he does.

And he's a very, very well informed, well educated man. He's educated. Speaking of education,

let me educate you on something. Have you ever heard of something called lactoferin? So lactoferin

is this protein that helps to protect your body against infections. And you actually find it in

what's called the colostrum. Sorry to gross you out, but the colostrum is like the first milk produced by

by mammals. And it does things like bind iron and remove it from the gut. Athletes will a lot of

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