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Gender: A Wider Lens

7 - Collective Collusion

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6961 Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In therapy, collusion happens when the therapist (consciously or unconsciously) participates in a client’s bid to avoid an important issue instead of helping the client to gain a deeper understanding or take a more helpful perspective. In the collective, society has colluded with the fantasy of gender identity, much to the detriment of dysphoric and transgender people themselves. Sasha and Stella discuss what factors contribute to this kind of collusion and how individuals have the power to steer us towards a more truthful and thoughtful direction.

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Extended Notes

  • What does collusion mean in this context?
  • What’s the difference between a good therapist and a bad therapist? They are able to step back when they’ve colluded with their client.
  • There is collective collusion among therapists as well as collective collusion among languages.
  • Stella showcases how the JK Rowling situation is the perfect example of collective collusion. She is not transphobic!
  • A person-centric therapist might be very reluctant to give honest feedback and to challenge their client.
  • They’re afraid that they’ll rupture the client's trust if they question whether someone with gender dysphoria is a boy or a girl.
  • However, this approach can lead a client to feel stuck and they become a prisoner to their own narrative.
  • It’s important the therapist doesn’t take the word of their client at face-value. Take a bird’s eye view of it instead.
  • People are more than just a walking identity. It’s important for a client to explore all the different reasons why they might have an issue.
  • Stella outlines how therapists fall into collusion instead of exploring the client’s feelings and emotions. It happens because they’re very empathic toward their feelings.
  • By trying to protect your client, you end up hurting them because reality will always hit hard.
  • Stella shares her thoughts on trans therapists and what they need to be aware of when it comes to collusion.
  • It’s easy to be kind short-term, but to be kind long-term is preparing...

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0:00.0

You're listening to gender, a wider lens.

0:04.0

I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

0:06.5

And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

0:10.6

Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens

0:16.1

and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning

0:20.7

teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and

0:24.2

individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the

0:28.1

concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens.

0:35.0

Hello, Stella.

0:38.0

Hi, Sasha, how are you?

0:40.0

I'm doing really well.

0:42.0

Today we are going to be covering a really important topic of collective collusion.

0:47.5

So we're going to be starting by describing what we mean by this and we see collective collusion happening on two levels on the societal level and then also between therapist and client and then we're going to share some examples of how collective collusion is playing out on gender.

1:05.2

And we're also going to discuss the psychological factors that might contribute to

1:11.7

collective collusion, how it

1:13.2

happens, how it unfolds, and also how to get out of collective

1:18.0

collusion, because that's ultimately what our goal is.

1:27.0

It's not considered a great concept in therapy to collude with your client.

1:30.0

And yet if you look back in, you know, anybody who studied to be a therapist,

1:35.0

if you look back in person-centered therapy, which was very much developed around Carl Rogers,

1:39.5

and it's a brilliant therapy.

1:41.0

It's about, you know, the core conditions of empathy, congruence,

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