7/7: The Inside Story – The Lone Wolf • Episode 5

CONFLICTED

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History, Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Conflicted: 7/7 The Inside Story is now live to all our dear listeners! New episodes of this 6 part Conflicted special documentary series will release every Monday. But if you want to listen to them all right now and ad-free, you'll have to sign up to the Conflicted Community. All the information you need to sign up is on this link: ⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/⁠ -- On March 22, 2017, the Westminster Bridge attack killed five people, marking the start of a year which would see five attacks kill dozens of people in the UK. They were all carried out with the most rudimentary means possible, and by singular actors working alone. This fifth episode of Conflicted: 7/7 The Inside Story tells the story of how we got there… By the early 2010s, the relationship between the British state and Muslim communities was strained, with the rise of far right groups becoming an ever more pressing issue. And abroad too, things were becoming ever more precarious. In the wake of war in Syria, the terror group ISIS stepped into the vacuum – hundreds of Europeans went to join their cause. So how would UK counter terrorism respond? Would the Prevent strategy be able to evolve alongside it to stop school children travelling to Syria? And how would this new phenomenon change the nature of terror in the West? We’ll hear from victims of terror, academics and more to find out. Conflicted - 7/7 The Inside Story is produced by Message Heard for Wondery. Hosted by Thomas Small. This series was written and produced by Harry Stott and Leo Danczak. Production Coordinator is Kirsty McLean. Sound design and engineering by Alan Leer, Ivan Eastley and Lizzy Andrews. Music by Tom Biddle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	In the early afternoon on the 22nd of March 2017, a group of university students were on a field trip to London to meet their local MP in the Houses of Parliament.
0:15.0	I was visiting London. It was a three-day trip that had been organized by my university and shortly after lunch
0:22.0	we had a meeting with our local MP.
0:26.5	Now halfway through that meeting with her, some sort of vote was called in Parliament that
0:30.8	she wasn't expecting and she apologised.
0:32.7	She said I'm really sorry but I'm going to have to leave.
0:35.4	So we were left with half an hour and it's in that half an hour that we decided to just do a bit of sight scene essentially,
0:41.3	to leave Parliament and to head onto the bridge.
0:47.3	It was only by chance that Travis Frayne found himself on Westminster Bridge that day.
0:52.3	He's the researcher we heard from at the end of our last episode, and his life was about
0:57.9	to change forever.
1:00.8	So we started walking along Westminster Bridge.
1:03.0	I took a photo of Big Ben as I was walking past it, like a typical tourist, and I sent
1:09.5	that to a few of my friends back home.
1:11.2	Now, we were about a third of the way along Westminster Bridge, I think, when one of the
1:16.2	lads in my group just shouted out very abruptly something along the lines of lookout or Travis
1:21.6	lookout.
1:22.7	And as I looked up from my phone, probably a distance of just a couple of meters, if that
1:27.3	in front of me,
1:28.9	was this large four by four vehicle flying straight towards me.
1:36.3	A car traveling at over 70 miles per hour had mounted the pavement and was mowing down everyone
1:42.7	in its path.
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