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Saturn Returns with Caggie

7.3 Showing Up For Tomorrow’s You with Millie Mackintosh

Saturn Returns with Caggie

Caggie Dunlop

Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

4.8892 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Today Caggie is joined by her childhood friend and former castmate of Made in Chelsea, Millie Mackintosh. In this conversation Millie opens up about her experience of bullying at school, a very formative time in our lives, and the toll this took on her mental health and the aftermath this had in later years. They discuss Millie’s transition from more turbulent times in her twenties into motherhood and the gratitude and fulfilment she feels from this aspect of herself. Often our twenties can be a vulnerable and challenging time and, as we go through our Saturn Return, we are forced to re-evaluate and make necessary changes. In this conversation, Millie discusses the importance she now places on showing up for tomorrow’s you and her journey with looking deeper into alcohol and the effects it had on her anxiety. Both Millie and Caggie discuss their sober curious journeys and their reasons for choosing to redefine their relationship with alcohol after questioning the cost conforming to this social norm was having on their mental wellbeing. --- Follow or subscribe to "Saturn Returns" for future episodes, where we explore the transformative impact of Saturn's return with inspiring guests and thought-provoking discussions. Follow Caggie Dunlop on Instagram to stay updated on her personal journey and you can find Saturn Returns on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok.  Order the Saturn Returns Book. Join our community newsletter here.  Find all things Saturn Returns, offerings and more here.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me Kaggy Dunlop.

0:04.4

This is a podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be

0:09.0

confusion and doubt. Today is a very special episode as I'm joined by one of my oldest friends.

0:16.2

She really needs no introduction for those of you who have followed me from the beginning

0:19.9

of my career and that is Millie McIntosh. Me and Millie first met when we were 15 or 16 and we became fast friends.

0:29.6

We did our gap here together, she's the reason I did made in Chelsea and we've been friends

0:36.2

ever since and you guys have wanted her on the podcast and so I'm very excited to share this conversation.

0:42.2

In this conversation with Millie we discuss her

0:45.0

experience at school and the reason I wanted to talk to her about this is because

0:48.9

having known Millie for as long as I have and been as close to her as I am. I know about that experience and I think

0:56.6

it's an interesting angle because I don't think many of you would. Millie has become very famous, she's often in the press, and I sometimes feel that when people have that

1:08.5

public persona, we think we know them, but we don't actually know their experiences or why they are the way they are.

1:16.4

And so it was really insightful for Millie to open up as vulnerable as she did in this conversation

1:21.8

and talk about what made her the person she is today and

1:25.0

some of those experiences were difficult for her but I think it's really interesting and

1:29.9

very humanizing.

1:31.6

We also discuss motherhood and the role that Middy is in now with

1:35.4

her two kids and how that's been really grounding for her. It's something that it

1:41.2

keeps popping up for me personally is I guess I'm at that age where it's more around me a lot of people are kind of shifting into that role

1:49.9

So it was really interesting hearing Millie's perspective on her turbulent 20s I guess going through her Saturn return and then finding this sort of peace in motherhood and a real sense of purpose in it.

2:02.1

We also touch on sobriety, which Millie openly talks about as something

2:08.1

that she and I both struggled with our relationship with alcohol for similar and different reasons and she's very

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