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🗓️ 8 November 2022
⏱️ 46 minutes
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To say I’m obsessed with New York Times bestselling author Joanna Ho’s novel “The Silence That Binds Us” is an understatement.
Yes, it’s a book technically written for young adults, but it’s also one adults need to read — because not only is it a beautiful story of grief, but it is also an impactful story about anti-racism.
I had the privilege of interviewing Joanna recently and talking to her about “The Silence That Binds Us” and specifically the lessons it teaches about Black and Asian solidarity. And just as much as “The Silence That Binds Us” is a book you don’t want to miss, this interview is one you’ll want to tune into as well!
In this episode, Joanna and I discuss:
Joanna Ho is the New York Times bestselling and award-winning author “Eyes that Kiss in the Corners” and “Eyes that Speak to the Stars.” She has extensive experience as an educator (she’s previously worked as an English teacher, a dean, the designer of an alternative-to-prison program, a creator of educator professional development, and a high school vice principal) and is passionate about anti-bias and anti-racism work. Joanna lives in the Bay Area where she enjoys chocolate chip cookies, being outside and having dance parties with her two kiddos.
Join us for a Policy Party
You know what anti-racism looks like in your home, now let’s take it into our communities! Join us for a Policy Party on Tuesday, Nov. 15, at 8 p.m. ET, where Lindsay Dusard will talk to us about refugee allyship!
At each Policy Party, we hang out over Zoom with experts from community-based organizations who will help us understand the issues and policies relevant to their area of expertise. Each party focuses on a different subject — anything from immigration to environmental justice and more! You’ll leave each party with specific actionable steps you can take to make your community more compassionate, inclusive and anti-racist.
My friend Lindsay will join us to discuss how we can be better allies to members of the refugee community. She has worked in refugee resettlement for over eight years and is currently a Ph.D. student at the University of Pennsylvania’s Graduate School of Education, where her work focuses on understanding factors related to refugee and immigrant students’ sense of belonging, wel-lbeing and success in the U.S. school system.
First Name Basis Patreon members will receive free admission, or you can purchase a one-time Policy Party ticket at firstnamebasis.org/policyparty. If you can’t attend the Policy Party, replays are also available with admission.
Articles, Studies & Podcasts Referenced In The Episode
Joanna Ho’s website
Joanna Ho’s Instagram account @joannahowrites
Learn more about “The Silence That Binds Us”
Pre-order Joanna’s upcoming children’s book “One Day”
Pen America, which has reports about book bans in America and ideas about what you can do to help stop the bans
We Need Diverse Books, which advocates for diversity and representation in children’s literature.
Joanna Ho’s books
Song Credit: “Sleeper” by Steve Adams” and “Dive Down” by VYEN
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0:00.0 | You're listening to the First Name Basis podcast, Season 7, Episode 13, |
0:04.7 | The Importance of Black and Asian Solidarity with New York Times best-selling author Joanna Ho. |
0:17.7 | Teaching our children to be inclusive and anti-racist starts with us within the sacred walls of our home. |
0:25.8 | First-name basis is designed to empower you with the confidence you need to be a leader in your family and a changemaker in your community. |
0:33.9 | Together, we will wrestle with hard questions and use the answers to create the world we want a world |
0:40.5 | that reflects our values of inclusion compassion and courage i'm your host jasmine bradshaw and i am so |
0:48.8 | excited to be on this journey with you hello first basis fam. I am so glad you are here. I have been hyping up this interview |
1:00.0 | for good reason because today we are going to hear from the New York Times bestselling |
1:05.1 | author Joanna Ho, who is just a beautiful human with a heart of gold. You probably know her from her debut picture book, |
1:14.1 | Eyes That Kiss in the Corners. It was an instant New York Times bestseller and she wrote |
1:18.6 | another book called Eyes That Speak to the Stars that was also a New York Times bestseller. |
1:24.5 | She's absolutely brilliant and one of the ways that she does her anti-racist activism is through |
1:30.0 | writing books. And not only picture books, which she has another one coming out in March called |
1:35.2 | One Day that you can pre-order now. I will put the link in the show notes. But also, she just |
1:40.8 | wrote a young adult novel. It's called The Silence That Binds Us, and it is absolutely, I don't know, |
1:47.9 | it's probably one of my very favorite books I've ever read. It was so real, y'all, it was so real. |
1:54.0 | It was so deep in the way that I was able to connect with the characters and see myself in the book |
1:59.8 | was really, really powerful to me. |
2:02.2 | So today, Joanna is here to talk to us all about the process of writing this powerful book |
2:08.3 | that really reflects so many of our experiences. And she digs into the importance of black |
2:14.5 | and Asian solidarity and how critical it is that we're leaning on each other |
2:18.7 | and saying no to white supremacy culture so that we can work towards liberation together. |
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