I'm the one you all should know.

Once more popular than Crudeau. Foders deserve a kick at the can. Come out now, Martin, fighting him in. Doing okay, you get a haircut? I did get a haircut as a matter of fact, yeah. I don't know why I'm beginning with this. Whether the answer is yes or no, it's kind of a banal thing. We all get haircuts. I'm not really sure why I asked you that. Is it okay? Is it okay? I think it looks fine. Can this partnership continue? There are some little curls in the front of your hair that are vaguely tintness, if I say so myself. I bet you say that to all the boys. Welcome to Michael and us. I'm Will Sloan, here as always with. Luke Savage, welcome back, everyone.

Welcoming Luke back from Ottawa, he spoke at the Progress Summit. How was your trip to Ottawa?

Oh, it was good, thanks. Yeah. So for those who don't know, the Progress Summit is the Broadbent Institute's annual conference. It's usually in Ottawa.

You know, I used to work at the Broadbent Institute from

2015 to 2018. And the Broadbent Institute is one of Canada's leading left-wing think tanks

founded by the great Ed Broadbent, whose name will be familiar to our listeners.

That's exactly right. And for the past couple years, this was the, you know, the second

year I did this. I've been invited to speak on

Ed and about some aspect of his career. Last year, I talked about nationalism since that was in the air,

and the United States was threatening to annex us. There was kind of a very odd sort of return of

nationalism in Canada last year, so I chose to talk about that. This year's

theme was defending democracy across borders, and so I spoke about Ed Broadbent's

internationalism, which is, you know, in many ways, the part of his career, you know, he's in public

life for 70 years, and it's the part of his career that is by far the least well known, the least

written about, you know, even after writing a book with him, I was kind of amazed to dig into

what he was doing in the 1960s a little bit more, to see how active he was in kind of anti-war

organizing around Vietnam and things like that.

And then in the late 70s, he became very active through the Socialist International,

where he was a vice president. And over the next decade, basically coinciding with the apex of Ed's profile and popularity as a national leader. You know, he was sinking considerable time and

energy into solidarity efforts of various kinds in Latin America. And so I chose to focus on those

for no reason in particular. And then my colleague Francis Abel followed, and she spoke about

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