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🗓️ 11 December 2025
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Marty sits down with Ryan Gentry to discuss his new $220 million SPAC aimed at taking Bitcoin operating companies public, the five-year evolution of the Lightning Network from single-digit millions to $10 billion in annual volume, and why Bitcoin businesses are finally mature enough to compete in public markets.
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| 0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
| 0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
| 0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
| 0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their |
| 0:23.5 | currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
| 0:29.2 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
| 0:31.8 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
| 0:36.5 | Ryan Gentry, I would say it's been a while, but it hasn't been a while. |
| 0:40.5 | We catch up behind the scenes quite frequently, but it's been a while since you've been on |
| 0:43.8 | the show five years, five years. |
| 0:46.9 | Five years depriving your audience. |
| 0:50.3 | For me, Marty. |
| 0:51.5 | I mean, but in serious, five years, that's a long time, especially a long time of Bitcoin, isn't it? |
| 0:58.5 | That's basically a third of Bitcoin's life we've gone without catching up on this show. |
| 1:05.2 | That's a wild way to think about it. |
| 1:07.4 | Yeah, I mean, five years ago, November 2020, Bitcoin was at what? Like mid-teens? |
| 1:14.2 | Let me check. |
| 1:14.8 | 15K. So I just started buying. |
| 1:18.8 | I go on the five-year chart. It's been six. Like, it doesn't even come up on the five-year |
| 1:23.2 | chart at the, to all. Was it November 2020? |
| 1:28.6 | I think so, yeah. |
| 1:30.2 | Yeah, we were climbing. |
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