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Hey, it's Francis.

You know, the other day I was on, like I was a guest on someone else's podcast, and the host asked me,

what's my favorite interview that I've ever done? And, you know, of course, there are dozens of them. And the first

one that popped in my head was Mas and Nikiko Matsumoto. They are this father, daughter,

farmer team. They're just so incredibly lovely and inspiring. So I just want to share this one with the world again.

I love this whole episode, in fact.

Hope you enjoy it.

I'm Francis Lamb, and this is The Splendid Table from APM.

You know, if you read any newspaper or magazine article that contains the word generation,

I bet it's either about how the baby boomers have ruined the world, or it's about how ridiculous

millennials are. And honestly, what I'd really put money on is that it doesn't mention that there's a whole generation, Gen X, between them, that kind of hates them both. But the point is, most of the discussion is about how different

generations kind of can't stand each other. But in food, it's almost the opposite, right? Meaning

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