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How we approach our communication and how we approach others when we're nervous about our

communication can make a tremendous difference in feeling confident

and portraying that confidence. I'm Matt Abrahams, and I teach strategic communication at

Stanford Graduate School of Business. Welcome to Think Fast, Talk Smart, the podcast. I am really

excited today to chat with Kelly McGonagall.

Kelly is a lecturer at Stanford GSB,

who teaches a class on presentation and communication skills for academics.

She is also the best-selling author of The Willpower Instinct,

The Upside of Stress, and her latest book is The Joy of Movement, How Exercise Helps

Us Find Happiness, Hope, Connection, and Courage. Welcome, Kelly. Thanks for being here. I am super

excited to get time with you. Oh, thank you for having me. I know we have a lot to talk about.

I think we have a lot of common passions. Absolutely. So let's go

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