687: Charlie Kirk & the Conflict Entrepreneurs
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 17 September 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Last week, a gunman in Utah killed Charlie Kirk on a college campus. Rather than uniting the country against political violence, Kirk's assassination has only made divisions wider. Some on the left celebrated his death, saying he reaped what he sowed, while some on the right, including the President, are calling for retribution against all leftists. One of the few voices trying to lower the temperature has been Utah's Republican governor, Spencer Cox, who lamented the polarizing influence of social media and the "conflict entrepreneurs who benefit from radicalizing us." Phil offers his coffeeshop reflections on how both the right and left justify hating the other side, while Kaitlyn and Skye discuss the need for faithful leadership when all of the incentives are against it.
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33:03 - The Increasing Acceptance of Political Violence
41:06 - Platforms of Hate
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Tony Perkin's Article on Charlie Kirk:
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination-ideology.html
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. Last week, a gunman in Utah killed Charlie Kirk on a college campus. |
| 0:06.3 | Because of the tragedy and the responses to it, we've decided not to have a guest on today's show. |
| 0:11.9 | Instead, we want to talk about responses to the assassination, because rather than uniting the country against political violence, it appears that Kirk's killing has only made divisions wider. |
| 0:22.2 | Some on the left are celebrating his death, saying he reaped what he sowed, and there are people |
| 0:26.6 | on the right, including the president, who are calling for retribution against all leftists. |
| 0:32.3 | One of the few voices trying to lower the temperature has been Utah's Republican governor, Spencer Cox, |
| 0:37.3 | who lamented the |
| 0:38.5 | polarizing influence of social media, and he says that conflict entrepreneurs are benefiting |
| 0:44.1 | from radicalizing us. Today, Phil offers his coffee shop reflections on how both the right |
| 0:49.5 | and the left are justifying hating the other side, and Caitlin and I discuss the need for faithful |
| 0:55.0 | leadership when all the incentives seem to be against it. Here is episode 687. |
| 1:01.5 | Hey there, welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. My name is Phil Fisher. I'm here with Caitlin |
| 1:07.1 | Chess. Hi, Caitlin. Hi, Phil. And Sky Jatani. Hi, Sky Sky. Hi. What you drinking? Tea. What you're eating? What did Kailen bring for us as a snack? My friend Kendall brought that. My friend Kendall VanderSlice, whose parents are probably listening right now, brought us bourbon pumpkin bread that is delicious. It's really good. Wow. Is it intoxicating? |
| 1:28.5 | I think you'd have to eat the whole loaf. |
| 1:42.6 | I don't. I think you'd need more than the whole loaf. Yeah, you'd need a few loaves, I think. How many did she bring? One. She brought that one. So we're safe. So I'm good. So I'm good. That loaf won't even give you a buzz. Yeah, but it's yummy. |
| 1:44.3 | It is yummy. |
| 1:45.1 | I had a little bit. |
| 1:45.8 | Thank you. |
| 1:46.2 | What's your name? |
| 1:46.6 | Kendall. |
| 2:01.6 | Thank you, Kendall, Vander slice. Is that Dutch? I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes. I don't know. Isn't Vander always? Yeah, I think so. Oh, well, there we are. I think so until our listeners write in and say, yeah, someone you your own. Someone will definitely tell you your own. Dults. |
| 2:02.6 | You doofuses, which is also Dutch. |
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