Well, hello there and welcome to a very special episode of the Terry Cole show. I am talking to

Mary Ann Williamson about the state of the world and her new book, The Mystic Jesus, The Mind of

Love. Many of you know who Marianne is. I'm going to talk a little bit about her in case you don't,

but for more than four decades, Marianne Williamson has been a leader of spirituality in progressive circles.

She's the author of 16 books, four of which have been number one New York Times bestsellers.

And a quote from the mega bestseller, a return to love, which is the book that I read that introduced me to her work.

Our deepest fear, this is the quote, our deepest fear is not that we're inadequate.

Our deepest fear is that we're

powerful beyond measure. And it goes on, right? And that quote itself is considered kind of an anthem for

a contemporary generation of seekers. And I do in some ways consider myself in that category, because I

specifically remember when I read a return to love and that quote in there

and I can go on about the quote and in fact I'll probably put it in the show notes, I remember I would

print it out and hand it to my therapy clients 15 years ago when I read this. I was like,

remember that it's your right to take up space and your light is the thing that gives

other people permission to shine their light. And anyway, so a lot of the work, especially the

early work of Marianne, really, really spoke to me and where I was in my life. And it was like

this, this very hopeful messaging. And what she's doing

in this book, it's reclaiming the lessons that there are to learn from what we hear about Jesus.

So I see it as learning and applying to modern life, some of this ancient

wisdom. And a lot of it is influenced by a course in miracles. So, you know, I just invite you to listen

and enjoy this episode of the Terry Cole show with an open mind and an open

heart. Even if you're not Christian, even if you're not Jewish, even if this sort of isn't your

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