So we've been talking about justice, but there's a word that gets added to that conversation

that all of a sudden makes this conversation very difficult for the church when we talk about

social justice. Why should that not be? Well, I'm not wedded to the word social justice, but I do think

what there's value, there's value in distinguishing two different types of justice. One type of

justice is just me and you one-on-one. I can do you injustice. I can rob you while you're walking down the

street. That's an individual injustice, a one-on-one injustice. But we can also have an injustice in a

systemic or in a structural sense, meaning we can organize a society in a way that is unjust.

So, for example, if I was the district attorney and said, I will never prosecute muggings.

Well, now when I mug you, I've committed an injustice to you one-on-one.

But now our system structurally has committed an injustice against you because the district attorney has declared

that this system will give you no justice in response to that mugging by Matt. And I want to

distinguish that systemic injustice, that social justice from the individual justice. Because I think

seeing those as two different types of,

but still both, two different types of justice, but both elements of justice is important.

And so whether you want to call that social justice or whether you want to call that systemic justice or structural justice,

I want to identify that as a category.

And there used to be a time when social justice wasn't a loaded term. I recognize it's to some degree been co-opted by progressive politics.

And so to say I believe in social justice could be misunderstood as saying,

I'm a progressive- ideologue and that's not what I mean by the term and in fact social justice has a long

history in Christian thought it was regularly used by people like Carl F.H. Henry back in the

60s you can you can find plenty of examples of that. It's used and there's

Catholic social teaching about social justice. So there was a recognition that there is a category

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