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The Art of Charm

679: Michele Rigby Assad | My Secret Life in the CIA

The Art of Charm

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🗓️ 19 December 2017

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Michele Rigby Assad (@michelerigassad) is an international security consultant, trainer, and author of the book Breaking Cover: My Secret Life in the CIA and What it Taught Me About What's Worth Fighting For. The Cheat Sheet: Is working undercover for the CIA as exciting as it looks in the movies? How does an isolated Florida girl grow up to be a CIA operative in the Arab world? What goes into gathering intelligence from terrorist sources, and what motivates them to cooperate with the CIA? How did Michele overcome a strong case of Imposter Syndrome while working at the CIA? What does it mean to "get off the X," and why is it important to understand even if you think you'll never be ambushed? And so much more... Full show notes at https://theartofcharm.com/679/ Find out more about the team who makes The Art of Charm podcast here! Want to spend less time shopping for insurance and take advantage of every possible discount? Visit meetamica.com/Forbes and find out why 95% of customers with combined auto and home policies stay with Amica! As security breaches make headlines with increasing frequency, is your identity protected? Go to LifeLock.com or call 1-800-LIFELOCK and use promo code FORBES for 10% off your LifeLock membership! Learn over 500 subjects (no tests or homework!) at The Great Courses Plus -- The Art of Charm listeners get one month free here! Does your business have an Internet presence? Now save a whopping 50% on new webhosting packages here with HostGator by using coupon code CHARM! Free yourself from typing notes, reports, and documents by going with the transcriptionists we trust here at AoC: TranscriptionOutsourcing.net -- 99% or higher accuracy guaranteed! HELP US SPREAD THE WORD! If you dig the show, please subscribe in iTunes and write us a review! This is what helps us stand out from the crowd and help people find the credible advice they need. Review the show in iTunes! We rely on it! http://www.theartofcharm.com/mobilereview Stay Charming!

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0:00.0

At the same time, Jordan, I'm looking to present myself as a very intelligent woman.

0:04.8

When you read nonverbals, you could literally see their eyes going, wait a minute, wait a minute,

0:10.1

this is not what I thought I was dealing with.

0:13.6

Welcome to the Art of Charm.

0:14.6

I'm Jordan Harbinger and I'm here with producer Jason Affilipo.

0:18.2

On this episode, we're talking with Michelle Rigby Assad, author of Breaking Cover, my

0:22.9

secret life in the CIA and what it taught me about what's worth fighting for.

0:27.3

This is a great one.

0:28.3

If you liked our Jack Barski KGB interview, you will dig this one as well.

0:33.4

She spent 10 years working undercover in the CIA alongside her husband Joseph.

0:38.1

They were counterterrorism and counterintelligence specialists.

0:41.7

Their job was to clandestinely, that means secretly in fancy spy terms, meet with Arab

0:46.1

sources to acquire terrorism related intelligence to stop attacks from occurring.

0:51.0

She's lived in six Middle Eastern countries and traveled to 45 others.

0:53.8

I didn't even know there were 45 others.

0:56.5

But this is just loaded with a lot of myth busting about preconceived notions of what

1:01.5

CIA officers look and act like how to develop trust with people when they aren't from the

1:06.6

same background or as you might imagine outright hostile will also discuss verbal and nonverbal

1:12.0

communications as used by CIA interrogators in the Middle East, what were allowed to discuss

1:16.6

anyway.

1:17.6

And we'll discuss why it's important to get off the X and take action instead of getting

1:22.6

overwhelmed or paralyzed in specific situations with a lot of input or heavy decision making.

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