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🗓️ 19 December 2017
⏱️ 69 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | At the same time, Jordan, I'm looking to present myself as a very intelligent woman. |
| 0:04.8 | When you read nonverbals, you could literally see their eyes going, wait a minute, wait a minute, |
| 0:10.1 | this is not what I thought I was dealing with. |
| 0:13.6 | Welcome to the Art of Charm. |
| 0:14.6 | I'm Jordan Harbinger and I'm here with producer Jason Affilipo. |
| 0:18.2 | On this episode, we're talking with Michelle Rigby Assad, author of Breaking Cover, my |
| 0:22.9 | secret life in the CIA and what it taught me about what's worth fighting for. |
| 0:27.3 | This is a great one. |
| 0:28.3 | If you liked our Jack Barski KGB interview, you will dig this one as well. |
| 0:33.4 | She spent 10 years working undercover in the CIA alongside her husband Joseph. |
| 0:38.1 | They were counterterrorism and counterintelligence specialists. |
| 0:41.7 | Their job was to clandestinely, that means secretly in fancy spy terms, meet with Arab |
| 0:46.1 | sources to acquire terrorism related intelligence to stop attacks from occurring. |
| 0:51.0 | She's lived in six Middle Eastern countries and traveled to 45 others. |
| 0:53.8 | I didn't even know there were 45 others. |
| 0:56.5 | But this is just loaded with a lot of myth busting about preconceived notions of what |
| 1:01.5 | CIA officers look and act like how to develop trust with people when they aren't from the |
| 1:06.6 | same background or as you might imagine outright hostile will also discuss verbal and nonverbal |
| 1:12.0 | communications as used by CIA interrogators in the Middle East, what were allowed to discuss |
| 1:16.6 | anyway. |
| 1:17.6 | And we'll discuss why it's important to get off the X and take action instead of getting |
| 1:22.6 | overwhelmed or paralyzed in specific situations with a lot of input or heavy decision making. |
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