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The Terri Cole Show

679 Break Up On Purpose with The Angry Therapist, John Kim

The Terri Cole Show

Terri Cole

Psychotherapist, Sustainablechange, Guidance, Mental Health, Simplestrategies, Society & Culture, Powerofintention, Simplestrategiestoachievepersonalfreedom, Hellofreedom, Easternmindfulnesspractices, Relationships, Health & Fitness, Practicalpsychology, Terricole

51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Today John and I are doing something new for the show– We’re both interviewing each other for our own podcasts, at the same time! We jam on how breakups create the perfect conditions for reflection, how high-functioning codependency interferes with healthy relationships, and the ultimate purpose of love. Plus, I share some details about how I turned to the web to help more people over a decade ago!

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0:00.0

Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole Show. And this is a new kind of

0:05.9

episode. I've never done one like this specifically before. So I did a fascinating interview with

0:13.0

my friend John Kim. You may know him as the angry therapist. He's a licensed therapist. He's a

0:18.8

speaker. He's the author of bestselling. I used to be a miserable fuck and single on purpose. He's a licensed therapist. He's a speaker. He's the author of bestselling. I used to be a miserable fuck and single on purpose. He's a writer for psychology today, among many other publications. We both have new books out. And so we did one interview that we're both going to use on our podcast. Anyway, I know John from the interwebs. That's when I first, someone in my team turned me on to him,

0:43.0

and this moniker of The Angry Therapist, and I don't know why, but I just thought it was really funny.

0:48.0

His life changed quite a bit about 12 years ago after going through a divorce.

0:50.8

That's when he started his blog, The Angry Therapist, and he quickly built a devoted following of fans who love the frank and

0:54.8

authentic insights by practicing transparency and sharing his story, something therapists are taught

0:59.5

not to do, which is very true. And this is something it's interesting. When you're a therapist

1:04.2

with a public-facing business, you know, you have to really decide, like, how much am I going

1:10.0

to share about myself when

1:11.1

usually we don't share anything? So John has a new book out. That is called Breakup on-purpced,

1:18.2

a catalyst for growth. So in this interview, and it was really a conversation amongst friends,

1:23.0

we talked all about why do breakup sometimes create the greatest soil for growth?

1:29.9

Why are some breakup so hard to get over, different kinds of breakups that there are?

1:34.0

I talked a little bit about high functioning codependency and how that interferes with healthy

1:39.6

relationships.

1:40.6

We hit the whole gamut of things.

1:42.7

But I really had a wonderful time.

1:44.0

It was a spirited conversation and I hope that you enjoy this conversation with John Kim,

1:48.0

the angry therapist, as much as I enjoyed interviewing him.

2:06.8

This is the Terry Cole show. and as you might have guessed, I'm your host, Terry Cole.

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