678: Is Gen Z Having a Religious Revival? with Ryan Burge
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 16 July 2025
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
The IRS has decided churches are no longer prohibited from endorsing political candidates. Is this a win for free speech or a reason for some churches to become even more partisan? The Department of Homeland Security has released a creepy new promotional video that uses the Bible to frame border security as a mission from God. The Christian who gave George W. Bush the idea of “compassionate conservatism” says the passing of the Big Beautiful Bill marks the end of an era for the GOP. Professor Ryan Burge is back with data about the religious outlook of Gen Z. Some see evidence of a revival, but Burge says it’s probably wishful thinking. Also this week, animal fashion news: chimp drip edition.
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:22 - Theme Song
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5:55 - Chimp Fashion!
12:56 - Christian in Government with PEPFAR
16:07 - The Johnson Amendment
29:24 - Bible Verse in an ICE Recruitment Ad
40:59 - Why Is the Church So Libertarian?
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58:00 - Interview
1:00:45 - Why Are They Saying It’s a “Revival?”
1:09:05 - Can Revival Be Predicted?
1:16:50 - Church and Loneliness
1:29:46 - End Credits
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https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/is-there-a-religious-revival-occurring
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. The IRS has decided churches are no longer prohibited from endorsing |
| 0:05.6 | political candidates. Is this a win for free speech or a reason for some churches to become even |
| 0:11.3 | more partisan? Then the Department of Homeland Security has released a creepy new promotional video |
| 0:16.9 | that uses the Bible to frame border security as a mission from God. And then the Christian |
| 0:22.7 | who gave George W. Bush the idea for compassionate conservatism says the passing of the |
| 0:28.2 | Big Beautiful Bill marks the end of an era for the GOP. And I talk with Ryan Burge, professor of sociology, |
| 0:35.7 | who's back with data about the religious outlook of |
| 0:38.2 | Gen Z. Some see evidence of a revival, but Burge says it's probably wishful thinking. Also this |
| 0:44.8 | week, the latest chimp drip. As always, we have new content every day on Holy Post Plus |
| 0:50.6 | exclusively for subscribers. This week, that includes a new episode of 66 verses to |
| 0:56.1 | explain the Bible with Esau McCauley, a new episode of Getting Schooled by Caitlin Chess, |
| 1:01.1 | a full episode of The SkyPod, where I speak with Drew Dick and cover the headlines, |
| 1:05.7 | and we have a bonus interview with Ryan Burge about the lessons he learned when he published |
| 1:09.8 | a more personal article |
| 1:11.1 | about the closing of his church last summer, and why he'll probably not do that again. |
| 1:16.5 | So go to holypost.com and sign up for Holy Post Plus today to get access to everything we're |
| 1:21.8 | creating and to engage with others who are part of the growing Holy Post media community. |
| 1:27.4 | Here is episode 678. |
| 1:30.5 | Hey there, welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. I'm Phil Visher. I'm here with Sky Jitani. |
| 1:36.1 | Hi, Phil. Hi, Sky. Who was just back. He just got off a plane last night while we're recording |
| 1:40.6 | this, not when you're listening to this, just got off plane from California. He's out of Dave Gibbons' church. Didn't see Dave. Dave's out of town. Apparently, Dave was at Shane Claiborne's birthday party. Oh, my gosh. That's weird. I know. Why weren't we invited? Exactly. So you were like babysitting so Dave could go out with Shane. |
| 2:01.5 | I speak a new song pretty much every other month. |
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