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The Holy Post

679: Individualism, Transhumanism, & Learning from Abolitionists with Daniel Lee Hill

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Skyejethani, Society & Culture, Philvischer, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, 226012, Christiantaylor, Atheism, Veggietales

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Why is our society so fractured and angry? David Brooks’ recent article draws from the work of moral philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre to explain how we got here, but what is the solution? With the growth of A.I., some Christians think technology may be how God redeems humanity and gives us eternal life. But is this still Christianity or a strange new Silicon Valley heresy? Kaitlyn talks to Daniel Lee Hill about his latest book, “Bearing Witness: What the Church Can Learn from Early Abolitionists.” Also this week—dolphins learn to puff the magic fish.

 

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0:00 - Show Starts

 

2:05 - Theme Song

 

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4:55 - Dolphins High Off Pufferfish Toxins

 

10:15 - David Brooks on Moral Philosophy

 

36:36 - Transhuminist Christians

 

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54:16 - Interview

 

56:12 - Why Write Bearing Witness?

 

1:03:40 - What Do We Learn from Abolitionists?

 

1:19:23 - Communal History in the Church

 

1:29:46 - End Credits

 

Links from News Segment:

Dolphins Doing Drugs:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dolphins-seem-to-use-toxic-pufferfish-to-get-high-180948219/

 

David Brooks Article on Moral Philosophy:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/trump-administration-supporters-good/683441/

 

Russell Moore on AI and God:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/07/image-god-ai-era-artificial-intelligence-russell-moore/

 

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Bearing Witness: What the Church Can Learn from Early Abolitionists by Daniel Lee Hill: https://a.co/d/8SrFKpm

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Holy Post. Why is our society so fractured and angry?

0:05.2

David Brooks' recent article draws from the work of moral philosopher Alistair McIntyre

0:09.7

to explain how we got here. But what is the solution? Then with the growth of AI, some

0:15.8

Christians think that technology may be how God redeems humanity and gives us eternal life. But is this still Christianity,

0:23.5

or some strange new Silicon Valley heresy? Caitlin then talks to Daniel Lee Hill about his new book,

0:30.5

Bearing Witness, what the church can learn from early abolitionists. Also this week, Dolphins learn to

0:36.9

puff the magic blowfish. Don't forget that only

0:39.9

a small fraction of what we're producing is available to everyone. Most of our content is exclusively

0:45.1

for Holy Post plus subscribers. So, to access all of that content and become part of the growing

0:51.0

Holy Post media community, head on over to holypost.com to learn how. Here is episode 679. Hey, everybody. Welcome to The Holy Post. I'm Sky Jatani, filling in for Phil Visher, who's on vacation this week. But we've got our co-host, our co-worker, our colleague? Yeah. Yeah.

1:11.6

E Saul McCauley is in the studio with me.

1:12.6

How are you, Esau? I'm good. I'm always good to be on the, they call it the flagship. We are the flagship. We are the flagship. On the big boy and big girl show, so I'm happy to be here. Okay. And we also have Caitlin Chess is zooming in from Durham. One or two last time?

1:07.6

Yeah, probably, I think maybe the last time.

1:10.6

Maybe second to last.

1:11.6

Second to last time.

1:12.6

Before I'm there in person all the time. You move to Wheaton and join us in studio. We also have, once again, a studio audience, a small studio audience, but a studio audience. We have the bridge program students here from Wheaton College, led by their director, Theon Hill, our friend, your colleague at Wheaton College. Yeah, he's one of my best friends on campus. Hi, everybody. Thanks for joining us. Shout out to the bridge. And there was, there was an uproar. I was going to use a bunch of, like, 90s reference. There you go, there you go. 90s hip hop references, like there's a song called The Bridge is over, but we'll leave all of that alone.

2:02.5

All right, we'll leave that alone. Here is the theme song.

2:07.1

What's the news that you like the most? Who's your favorite podcast host?

2:13.1

If it's breakfast, get your toast.

2:15.7

It's Sky and Phil and the Holy Post's Sky and Phil and the Holy Post.

2:19.1

Sky and Phil and the Holy Post.

2:22.2

And sometimes, Caitlin.

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