674: Parades, Protests, and Habeas Corpus with Michael Bird
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 18 June 2025
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Summary
It was a wild weekend. Donald Trump presided over a military parade on his birthday while an estimated 5 million Americans protested around the country. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the optics of both events and ask, with America’s divided politics and media silos, is protesting still effective? They also unpack a new article by Abby McCloskey in CT that argues evangelicalism’s focus on a private, personalized faith undermines learning, curiosity, and exercising the mind. Then, theologian and Holy Post Pundit, Michael Bird, is back. He offers an outsider’s perspective on Trump’s military parade, the “No Kings” protests, and why he thinks more Christians should be concerned about the suspension of habeas corpus. Also this week: More ’50s slang and an update on Ed the zebra.
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:25 - Theme Song
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6:18 - 50’s Slang
9:44 - Ed the Zebra’s Return!
14:35 - Military Parade
23:48 - What Does Protest Do?
32:05 - The Christian Mind Out of Practice
47:30 - Teaching Essentials of the Faith
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52:24 - Interview
59:30 - Polarization of the Military
1:10:05 - Right to Protest
1:19:45 - End Credits
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. It was a wild weekend. Donald Trump presided over a military parade |
| 0:06.0 | on his birthday, while an estimated 5 million Americans protested around the country. This week, |
| 0:11.6 | we discussed the optics of both events and asked, with America's divided politics and media silos, |
| 0:17.2 | is protesting still effective? Then we unpack a new article at CT that argues evangelicalism's |
| 0:23.5 | focus on a private, personalized faith actually undermines learning, curiosity, and exercising |
| 0:29.6 | the mind. The night talk with theologian and Holy Postpundant Michael Bird about his |
| 0:34.6 | outsider's perspective on Trump's military parade, the no king's protests, |
| 0:39.0 | and what he thinks Christians should be most concerned about. He argues it's the suspension |
| 0:43.7 | of habeas corpus. Also this week, more 50s slang and an update on Ed the Zebra. We have a whole |
| 0:50.8 | lot of great stuff on Holy Post Plus this week as well, including a bonus |
| 0:54.4 | interview with Mike Bird about whether or not he thinks open theism is a heresy. |
| 0:59.3 | We've got a new episode of Getting Schooled by Caitlin Chess, and on the Skypod this week, |
| 1:03.5 | I interviewed the author of a new book about the history of American Christianity and sports, |
| 1:08.8 | which is actually fascinating. And don't forget that Holy Post Plus subscribers can get access to each chapter of my new book as I write it. |
| 1:16.6 | It's called The World Born in You, letters to a new generation of American Christians. |
| 1:21.6 | I'll be hosting a live stream next Monday night where you can interact with me about chapter one. |
| 1:26.6 | So to join the wider Holy Post |
| 1:28.9 | media community and join Holy Post Plus, you're going to want to go to holypost.com and learn all |
| 1:34.4 | about it. Here is episode 674. Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. I'm Phil Fisher. I'm |
| 1:42.7 | here with Sky Jitani. Hi, Sky. Hi, Phil. |
| 1:44.8 | Happy birthday, Phil. Oh, what? Happy birthday, Phil. It's my birthday. Oh, my goodness. |
| 1:51.7 | It's my birthday. What do you know? Actually, today, actually right now. Today. Today is. |
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