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673. What Is Money?

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🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

That’s what the Pulitzer Prize-winning composer David Lang wanted to learn. So he turned Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations into an oratorio. We tag along as Lang’s piece heads toward its world premiere with the New York Philharmonic. (Part one of a two-part series.)

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner.

0:05.4

We recently made a three-part series about an almost 300-year-old oratorio that still has a grip on a lot of people today, handles Messiah.

0:13.9

During our reporting, we spent some time with the New York Philharmonic as they rehearsed and performed Messiah.

0:20.3

One day, our producer, Zach Lipinski, heard about a future Philharmonic as they rehearsed and performed Messiah. One day, our producer, Zach Lipinski, heard about a future Philharmonic oratorio called

0:26.5

The Wealth of Nations.

0:28.7

You may recognize that title.

0:30.1

It is a book published in 1776 by the Scotsman Adam Smith, who is widely seen as the father

0:36.3

of modern economics. and some people consider

0:39.2

the wealth of nations a sacred text of capitalism. This new wealth of nations oratorio was

0:45.5

apparently inspired by Messiah, a musical story using artfully rearranged text from historical

0:52.6

sources. Here is the weird thing.

0:55.3

We once made a three-part series about Adam Smith, too.

0:59.1

So hearing about an Adam Smith wealth of nations Messiah mashup felt like one of those

1:05.3

moments where your AI feeds you something a little too spot on.

1:09.7

This would be a world premiere conducted by the Venezuelan-born superstar Gustavo Doudemel,

1:15.5

and the composer was named David Lang.

1:18.2

Maybe you have heard of David Lang, but I hadn't, so I asked my home pod to play some David Lang,

1:25.9

and here's what came out.

1:27.3

Just your mouth.

1:31.3

Just your love.

1:35.2

Just your anointing oins.

1:39.0

Just your...

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