Hello everyone and welcome to this week's Squiggly Career Podcast.

I am Helen, one of the co-hosts of the podcast and I'm also here with Sarah.

Hi everyone.

And we're back together because last week Sarah went solo.

Did you get jealous?

Did you get jealous?

Well, you didn't acknowledge me at all, so I'm just a bit bitter.

No, no, no, not at all.

I loved it.

I loved it.

So Sarah last week did a podcast recording with Bruce Daisley,

who has a great podcast that we love called Eat, Sleep, Work, Repeat.

And he was talking to Sarah about his book, The Joy of Work, which has just come out. And it was so funny. I listened to the podcast when I was

in Manchester, like a proper, like, fan of the show. I was like, actually genuinely listening.

And I was like, this is so interesting. And I was like writing notes. And it is such, I'm allowed to

say it's really good because I wasn't on it. It's such a good podcast. I learned loads from it and Sarah, you managed it very, very well.

I particularly enjoyed like the monk mode that Bruce Daisley talks about in his book that you called

out Sarah about having these like points in the day where it's uninterrupted for work and I really

like that. And then the other bit I like was a, I think Bruce called them interstitials. So the breaks in our day, like when you're waiting for a burst or you're having a shower,

when our creative ideas.

Yeah, but actually we've become so like a bit productivity obsessed must multitask that actually maybe the amount of interstitials we allow ourselves to have has reduced.

And does that have an impact on our creativity?

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