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No Stupid Questions

67. How Can You Escape Binary Thinking?

No Stupid Questions

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Also: why is it so satisfying to find a bargain? This episode originally aired on September 19th, 2021.

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0:00.0

You are blowing my tiny mind right now.

0:05.5

I'm Angela Duckworth.

0:07.2

I'm Stephen Dubner.

0:08.3

And you're listening to No Stupid Questions.

0:11.6

Today on the show, how can you become less of a binary thinker?

0:16.5

My way is the right way.

0:18.8

Also, why does bargain hunting bring people so much joy? I was,

0:24.2

as a young woman, a great coupon clipper. Angie, I want to be less of a binary thinker, and I wonder

0:35.5

if you can help me. Well, Stephen, you know, there are two kinds of people.

0:38.9

People who like binary thinking.

0:40.3

Just kidding.

0:41.3

I couldn't resist.

0:42.6

Here's my problem.

0:43.5

I'm not sure whether this is me personally, whether this is the human condition, or whether

0:49.7

it's the human condition in the modern era, you know, society and politics and media being what they are in this early 21st century, I guess it is.

0:59.4

But I feel that the confluence of all these forces is constantly hurting me into yes or no, black or white, all or nothing choices.

1:09.4

You know, you can't belong to political movement X unless you

1:13.6

subscribe to all 20 of its tenants and precisely zero of the other movement's 20 tenants, for example.

1:21.3

Now, my brain, and even my soul, know that the world should not work that way, that there's so much more nuance and variation to how life should unfold.

1:32.2

But it's hard to not veer toward binary thinking.

1:36.8

So how can I and everyone get better at that?

1:40.1

Well, you're not alone.

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