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Hey, everybody. how you doing?

Welcome to the Other People podcast.

I'm Brad Listy.

It's good to be with you.

Here we are.

I have Dave Goodwilly on the program.

I have David Goodwilly on the program today. He is the author

of several books, most recently a novel called Kings County, available now from avid reader

press, an imprint of Simon & Schuster. David Goodwilley is also the author of a novel called American

Subversive, which was a New York Times notable book of the year,

and a memoir called Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time. He has written for a variety of publications,

including The New York Times, New York Magazine, Newsweek, and Popular Science. Interestingly,

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