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Grammar Girl Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing

668 - What's Wrong with 'These Ones'? Faith and Begorrah, We Have Irish Phrases for St. Patrick's Day!

Grammar Girl Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing

Mignon Fogarty, Inc.

Society & Culture, Education

4.52.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2019

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Faith and begorrah, we have Irish phrases for St. Patrick's Day! Plus, a listener asks whether it's wrong to say "these ones" and "those ones." FOLLOW GRAMMAR GIRL YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/grammargirl Twitter: http://twitter.com/grammargirl Facebook: http://facebook.com/grammargirl Pinterest: http://pinterest.com/realgrammargirl Instagram: http://instagram.com/thegrammargirl LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grammar-girl SPONSORS AND LINKS ThirdLove: http://thirdlove.com/grammar (for 15% off your first order) Enter the 300 Million Download Contest: https://read.macmillan.com/promo/grammargirlcontest3002019/ GRAMMAR POP iOS GAME Optimized for iPad: http://bit.ly/GrammarPopiPad For iPad and iPhone: http://bit.ly/GrammarPop GRAMMAR GIRL BOOKS http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/grammar-girl-book-page GRAMMAR GIRL IS PART OF THE QUICK AND DIRTY TIPS PODCAST NETWORK. VOICEMAIL: 833-214-GIRL

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0:00.0

Graham, I'm a young folkity and you can think of me as your friendly guide to the English

0:09.6

language.

0:10.6

Today, I'll answer a listener question about the phrases, these ones and those ones, and

0:16.5

I'll have a meeting about some Irish phrases to get you ready for St. Patrick's Day.

0:21.3

Here's the listener question.

0:22.6

Yes, my name is James Paul Jarrett Jr.

0:25.9

I'm going to have a question.

0:26.9

It was several years ago, my son is in the out 33, but when he was in elementary school,

0:31.4

I started hearing the kids use the phrase, these ones and those ones.

0:38.9

And that doesn't sound right to me.

0:40.6

It should be that one or those over there, not those ones, but I've heard other people

0:48.0

use the phrase, these ones and those ones.

0:51.9

Is that now acceptable, English, or even used?

0:55.1

Because I do hear, particularly, I think younger people use it.

1:00.8

And I'm old enough to remember when they used to say, ain't in the dictionary, although

1:05.7

it's your word that it really is.

1:07.8

But anyway, that's my question.

1:12.4

Thanks for the question.

1:14.5

You aren't the first person to complain about these ones and those ones sounding wrong,

1:19.4

and I'm sure you won't be the last.

1:21.6

So you're not alone, but there's actually no real rule against using those phrases,

1:27.3

except that sometimes they're redundant and redundancy can bother people.

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