666: Get People Reading What You’re Sending, with Todd Rogers
Coaching for Leaders
Dave Stachowiak
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Todd Rogers: Writing for Busy Readers
Todd Rogers is a professor of public policy at Harvard University, where he has won teaching awards for the past seven consecutive years. He is a behavioral scientist and the cofounder of the Analyst Institute and EveryDay Labs. His opinion pieces have appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and Politico, among other outlets. He’s co-author with Jessica Lasky-Fink of Writing for Busy Readers: Communicate More Effectively in the Real World*.
You probably only skimmed that email I spent an hour writing. And let’s be equally honest the other way — I only skimmed the document your team worked on most of last week. This is the reality of how we all read in a busy world. On this episode, Tom and I discuss how to write so that people actually read what you send.
Key Points
- Virtually everyone is a writer in some significant way: emails, text messages, memos, social media posts, and many other daily communications.
- While your writing is important to you, the audience is often trying to spend as little time as possible processing what you’ve sent. Virtually everyone skims, especially in the context of work.
- Using fewer words make it more likely that people will engage with the message at all, much less taken action.
- Addressing fewer ideas often helps people engage better. Studies show better results for calls to action when fewer ideas are presented in a single communication.
- Asking busy readers for more can cause them to do less. Be mindful about the number of requests you are making in writing and eliminate those which aren’t essential.
Resources Mentioned
- Writing for Busy Readers: Communicate More Effectively in the Real World* by Todd Rogers and Jessica Lasky-Fink
- AI for Busy Readers (transform your writing in real-time using the science of Writing for Busy Readers)
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| 0:00.0 | You probably only skimmed that email I spent an hour writing and let's be equally honest the other way |
| 0:07.0 | I only skim the document your team worked on most of last week. |
| 0:11.3 | This is the reality of how we all read in a busy world. In this |
| 0:16.2 | episode How to Write So that people actually read what you send. This is Coaching for Leaders episode 666. |
| 0:26.0 | Produced by Innovate Learning Maximizing Human Potential. human potential. Greetings to you from Orange County, California. |
| 0:38.0 | This is coaching for leaders and I'm your host, Dave Stahopiac. |
| 0:42.0 | Leaders aren't born. They're made. And this weekly show helps |
| 0:46.5 | you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. Of course, one of the key skills that we all need to, if not master, at least |
| 0:56.9 | get better at his leaders is the ability to get people reading, paying attention to the messages that we send. |
| 1:05.6 | Those messages are sometimes verbal of course, sometimes in video, but oftentimes |
| 1:10.4 | many of our communications. In fact, the vast majority of mine every day are in writing |
| 1:15.6 | and even though a lot of us don't think of ourselves as writers the reality is we spend a lot of our time |
| 1:20.8 | writing and communicating through that medium every single day. |
| 1:24.8 | It is a key competency for us to get better at as leaders and I'm so glad today to welcome |
| 1:29.3 | a guest who's an expert at this. |
| 1:30.9 | It's going to help us to do a better job of thinking of how we can |
| 1:33.6 | actually get people paying attention to the things that we send. I'm so |
| 1:37.7 | pleased to introduce Todd Rogers. He's a professor of public policy at |
| 1:41.2 | Harvard University where he's won teaching awards for the past seven consecutive years. |
| 1:46.0 | He is a behavioral scientist and the co-founder of the analyst institute and everyday labs. |
| 1:51.0 | His opinion pieces have appeared in the New York Times, |
| 1:54.0 | the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, political, and many other outlets. |
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