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The School of Greatness

665 Jordan Peterson on Pain and Suffering

The School of Greatness

Lewis Howes

Mindset, Relationships, Entrepreneurship, Mental Health, Education, Greatness, Fitness, Celebrity, Health, Inspiration, Success, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Business, Money, Self Care, Celebrity Interview

4.8 • 22K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2018

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

“When you love someone, you not only love them despite their fragility: but also because of it.” One of the hardest things you have to deal with in life is watching someone close to you suffer from an illness. Especially if you’re a parent. Although I’ve never had the experience of seeing my child suffer, I’ve had close loved ones go through the pain. It’s this time in life that either makes or breaks you. You have to be strong, not just for you, but also for them. That doesn’t mean you should discourage their vulnerability. You still need to embrace it, and there is a delicate balance in doing so. It’s also important to be there to support them and let them know that they are not a victim. They are still as strong as they want to be. If they fall into that victim mentality, it’s game over. They begin to lose their character in their illness. To dive into this more, I brought back Dr. Jordan Peterson. This is part two of my interview with Dr. Peterson. If you missed the last episode, go back and listen. In this part of my interview, Jordan dove into what it was like watching his child suffer with an debilitating illness. He talks about the lessons he learned as a professional, as well as a father. We discuss how his entire family was affected, and how he was able to teach is daughter to stay strong and vulnerable. This is a powerful episode, and you need to listen to it because there are valuable lesson you will need to use one day. Learn how you can avoid the victim mentality when an illness hits, on Episode 665. Some Questions I Ask: What’s the biggest challenge you’ve had to overcome? (5:16) How does mapping out your time play into the self authoring program? (9:09) Did your daughter feel responsible for causing all of the pain? (13:18) Is there anything that you wish you had done differently with your children? (21:22) Did you ever doubt yourself, in terms of your ability? (26:56) What’s your biggest fear now? (35:18) In This Episode You Will Learn: How to emotionally navigate seeing your child suffer (7:42) How to focus on your career at the same time as dealing with a loved one’s illness (11:03) What Jordan taught his daughter at an early age about her illness (16:06) How Dr. Peterson feels about his daughter’s experience (23:48) How his daughter’s health affected his career (30:27) Dr. Peterson’s plan moving forward (40:22)

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is episode number 665 with bestselling author Dr. Jordan Peterson

0:07.0

Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howe's former pro athlete turn lifestyle entrepreneur and each week

0:15.1

We bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness

0:22.1

Thanks for spending some time with me today now let the class begin

0:31.0

Aristotle said suffering becomes beautiful when anyone bears great calamities with cheerfulness

0:38.7

Not through insensibility, but through greatness of minds

0:43.4

We are back with the second part of this two-part series with Dr. Jordan Peterson and for those that don't know who

0:50.7

Dr. Jordan Peterson is he's a professor at the University of Toronto a clinical psychologist and author of

0:56.6

12 rules for life and antidote to chaos which is sold over a million and a half copies in the last six months

1:03.4

And he has taken the world over by storm make sure to check out part one of this series

1:08.5

Which is all about responsibility and meaning we went deep in that episode and this is picking up on the second part of

1:15.5

That first one this is all about how to deal with something that is brutally painful and Dr.

1:21.9

Jordan Peterson dives into some of the most painful and emotional parts of his life and how he's dealt personally with suffering

1:28.5

With his own life and with the lives of those closest around him also how to avoid a victim mentality

1:35.8

When illness strikes we dive in deep on this topic and how most people

1:41.7

Focus on this mentality and they're never going to live a great life because of that also why we should keep children

1:49.4

Vulnerable and teach them to be strong some important topics on that about kids and raising children as well

1:57.2

No matter how much challenge they may be facing. I'm super excited about this one make sure you guys check it out

2:04.6

Part one first

2:06.4

Share this with your friends as well. This is Lewis house comm slash

2:10.5

665 tag myself at Lewis house and Dr. Jordan Peterson over on Instagram and Twitter to let us know that you're listening

2:19.0

And what you think about it during this episode as well

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