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The Model Health Show

66% of Chronic Back Pain CURED: The Groundbreaking Study Changing Medicine – With Dr. Howard Schubiner

The Model Health Show

Shawn Stevenson

Fitness, Health & Fitness, Nutrition

4.87.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Chronic pain is a pervasive issue that affects 1.5 billion people worldwide. If you or anyone you know has ever suffered from chronic pain issues, you understand that persistent pain day in and day out can cause a diminished quality of life, lead to mental health issues, and a variety of other health concerns. Today, we’re going to talk about real, science-backed solutions for treating chronic pain.   Dr. Howard Schubiner is a researcher and educator whose work has influenced the development of innovative treatments for chronic pain. His work explores the role the mind plays in a host of chronic issues, not limited to migraines, back and neck pain, anxiety, and depression. His new book, Unlearn Your Pain, unpacks the neuroplastic causes to chronic pain and how to assess and treat pain.  Dr. Schubiner joins this episode of The Model Health Show to explain the fascinating results of his research, including how the mind can impact our physical and emotional pain. You’re going to learn about the science of neuroplastic pain, the interconnectedness of the mind and body, and so much more. This information is truly transformative, I hope you enjoy this episode and share it out with someone you think could use these tools to recover from chronic pain  In this episode you’ll discover: What pain actually is, and why it’s a function of the brain. (3:04) How pain can occur without an injury. (4:17) A powerful question you can ask yourself when experiencing pain. (7:35) The details of the Boulder Back Pain Study. (8:37) What Pain Reprocessing Therapy is. (11:48) Why scans like MRIs don’t tell the full story when it comes to pain. (14:09) What you can learn from pain that comes and goes. (15:30) The neuroscience of predictive processing. (22:50) The interesting science of how neurocircuits can be learned. (33:09) What happens when pain persists after an injury heals. (38:51) How to determine if you have neuroplastic pain or a structural injury. (44:58) The role emotional awareness can play in treating pain. (1:05:37) How to process anger and sadness. (1:10:33)  The power of the spiral of recovery. (1:15:53 Items mentioned in this episode include: WildPastures.com/model - High-quality, responsibly sourced meat—delivered right to your door. Wild Pastures makes it easy to eat clean without overpaying. Get 20% off every box + $15 off your first order. DrinkLMNT.com/model - Get a truly meaningful dose of electrolytes in a science-backed ratio. Free sample pack with any order. Unlearn Your Pain by Dr. Howard Schubiner - Get your copy of the book today!  Connect with Dr. Howard Schubiner Website / Instagram / YouTube  Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:  Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube  This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Wild Pastures and LMNT  High-quality, responsibly sourced meat—delivered right to your door. Wild Pastures makes it easy to eat clean without overpaying. Get 20% off every box + $15 off your first order at wildpastures.com/model Most people are underhydrated—and it’s costing you energy, focus, and performance. LMNT delivers a science-backed electrolyte ratio with no sugar, no junk—just what your body actually needs. Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/model.

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You are now listening to The Model Health Show with Sean Stevenson.

0:04.8

For more, visit themodelhealthshow.com.

0:10.2

Welcome to the model health show.

0:11.8

This is fitness and nutrition expert, Sean Stevenson,

0:13.9

and I'm so grateful for you tuning in with me today.

0:16.9

Pain is one of the most widespread and pervasive aspects of the human experience, and yet we know so

0:22.4

little about pain and where it comes from. And on today's episode, which I'm telling you right now,

0:27.7

this is one of the most powerful episodes that we've ever done here on the Model Health Show.

0:32.5

We have one of the world's foremost experts and not just the science of pain and pain management, but in helping

0:40.6

people to actually achieve solutions for their chronic pain. And he's actually the author

0:48.2

of multiple peer-reviewed studies in some of our most prestigious peer-reviewed journals regarding

0:54.0

pain management and pain

0:56.0

treatments. In fact, one of his most recent studies titled, Effect of Pain Reprocessing

1:02.9

Therapy versus Placebo and Usual Care for Patients with Chronic Back Pain was published in the prestigious

1:10.7

peer-reviewed journal JAMA psychiatry.

1:14.3

And after compiling the data, the researchers found that pain reprocessing therapy

1:20.3

cured 66% of back pain patients. This was six times more effective for reducing or eliminating pain

1:32.6

than standard of care treatments. It's so astronomically more effective. We can't even put this

1:39.5

into words. And this is just one of the incredible studies that's been conducted,

1:46.0

and you're going to find out, if you're curious,

1:48.9

what is this pain reprocessing therapy?

1:53.0

Our special guest is going to unpack that for you today and help us to really understand what pain actually is

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