A few nights ago, Neil and I got into a deep discussion about the need for integrity and how it

seems to be less and less common in the world and more and more accepted as just the way things are

or have to be. We felt strongly that today's episode needed to be on honesty and integrity,

in business, in our personal lives, and in recovery. Neil shares his perspective as a recovering addict,

and I share some examples of business and personal times

where I've faced the option to be honest

or yield to temptation to cut corners.

And we share why we believe honesty really does pay off in the end.

Hi, everyone.

Welcome to today's podcast episode.

Hello.

I'm here with Neil.

And we are going to discuss something that came up for me in business a few days ago.

And it reminded me of something that's been a theme in my life in business.

And Neil and I got into this big, long, one of those like really good, juicy conversations.

Juicy.

It was.

It was.

It's funny.

And I said, we need to do a podcast episode on this.

So we are going to talk today about the topic of honesty and integrity.

So I want to start this off by a quotation from one of my heroes, Gordon B. Hinkley.

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