Hey everybody, welcome to another edition of Ten Gently Speaking. I'm your host,

Christopher Ryan, coming to you not live, coming to you dead or whatever the

opposite of live is recorded from Portland, Oregon. It's Sunday afternoon. This

will be gone out tomorrow Monday. So almost live. The podcast I'm going to be

that you're going to be listening to here though. It's far from live. I recorded

this. I think in August or September, you'll hear me talking about how hot and

humid it is in New York. Sorry about that. I just ended up with this huge

backlog of podcasts. I was running into so many interesting people and you

know, recording everybody. And so I'm I'm burning through the backlog and we'll

be getting to new fresh recordings pretty soon. But as you'll you'll find

just because I haven't released them for a while, doesn't mean that they're

not interesting. This is Arden Lee, who's super interesting. She was as you'll

hear a professional dominatrix for quite a while in her public life. But then

in her private life, she was submissive. So there was an interesting balance

going on there. And yeah, she's she's an interesting woman. So you'll hear some

fascinating conversation that I had in August. She talks about moving from New

York. She's already in LA, but the contact information she gives and and all

that business is current. So you'll be able to find her easily. This episode's

brought to you by Sure Design T-shirts. As all these episodes are brought to

you by Sure Design T-shirts, I got an interesting email the other day from a

woman who just loves her Sure Design T-shirt. She just got it. And she wrote to

me about her her response to the Sure Design T-shirt. And let's see, I think I've

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