It's time for episode 654 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, April 29th, 2026.

Clockwise, four people, that just might be over before you finish mowing the lawn.

I am one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across this vast internet by my good pal, my dear friend. It is the one and only Dan, the man. Morin. How you doing, Dan? I'm doing well. My lawn is not that big, so probably I would finish mowing it first. And also, I don't mow the lawn. My wife mows the lawn. So I guess it wouldn't even

be an issue. Well, that's good. I just mowed the lawn and it will probably have to do it again

in like three or four days. It rains a lot. But don't listen to this podcast. That'd be very

confusing. Anyway, we've got two awesome guests joining us on this show who may or may not mow.

To my left, senior developer advocate at GitHub. It's the wonderful Christina Warren. Hello,

Christina. Hello. Hello. And yeah, no, I am not a mower. That is not in my purview. So those who,

those who mo can, those who don't, don't mow.

To my left this week, it's the director of strategic partnerships at eKM, the one and only

Doc Rock.

Welcome back, Doc.

I, too, am an anti-mower because I would need an anti-gravity mower at 16 flights up above.

It just look really weird.

Well, without further ado, I think it's time for us to get started.

We've got four topics, 30 minutes, and mine for you is this.

Aside from coding, is there any other techie task that you kind of, if it comes up, you go,

no, I may not be near my computer or my laptop right now, but I am not going to do this

thing on my phone or I'm not going to do this thing on my tablet. I will wait or I will go right

now to hop on to my computer.

Christina, we'll start with you.

If there's anything that I need to do in a spreadsheet that's more than just reviewing the

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