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🗓️ 7 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner. Before today's episode, a quick announcement. On Thursday, |
| 0:08.7 | November 13th, I will be live on stage in New York City in conversation with the journalist |
| 0:13.9 | Bud Mishkin celebrating 20 years of Freakonomics and talking about what's next. We will be at the |
| 0:19.6 | 92nd Street Y on the Upper East Side. |
| 0:22.1 | I hope you can make it. For tickets, go to Freakonomics.com slash live shows. And now here is today's |
| 0:29.9 | episode. May I give him a pat on the shoulder? Oh my gosh, I'm about to feed American Pharaoh a carrot, which is kind of highlighted my life so far. |
| 0:42.3 | That's Emily Plant. She is a lifelong horse lover who makes her living today as a thoroughbred researcher and statistician. |
| 0:52.3 | And American Pharaoh, he is one of the most famous |
| 0:56.2 | and most sought-after horses in the world. His fame comes from winning the 2015 Triple Crown. That's |
| 1:02.7 | the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness Stakes, and the Belmont Stakes. He was the first horse to win the |
| 1:07.7 | Triple Crown in nearly four decades. It was a huge deal for the industry because people said, oh, maybe it can't be done anymore. |
| 1:16.3 | Maybe it's too hard. Maybe the modern thoroughbred can't handle this. And then he won. |
| 1:23.8 | And he is sought after because in horse racing, bloodline is extremely important. |
| 1:29.2 | If you own a mayor that is deemed worthy of American Pharaoh, he will be happy to mate with her for a stud fee of $45,000. |
| 1:37.8 | Back when he first retired from racing at three years old, his fee was $200,000. |
| 1:43.4 | He is owned by a firm called Ashford Stud, which paid a reported $23 million for him in 2015. |
| 1:50.5 | Ashford is a 2,000-acre farm in Kentucky bluegrass country, and that's where we are today. |
| 1:55.7 | This is the American outpost of Coolmore Stud, the biggest thoroughbred breeder in the world with headquarters in |
| 2:01.8 | Ireland. This Kentucky location is sometimes called Coolmore America. Emily Plant calls it |
| 2:07.6 | equine paradise. If you look at the barns, there's works of art in terms of the limestone |
| 2:16.2 | craftsmanship, the roof, the cupola. |
| 2:20.3 | There are 15 champion stallions in residence in these barns. |
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