Today's guest wrote the book many refer to as the Bible for steelhead fishing.

He was the guy who created and perfected the snap T-cast, and he's one of the most respected

anglers in the steelhead game, and today he's going to break down the history and some of the

best tips for steelhead and spay, so you have a better shot at hooking these magical steelhead

while on the river this season. This is the Web fly swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to give back to the fish species we all love. Hey, I'm Dave, host the wet fly swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid. I grew up around a little fly shop and have created one of the largest fly fishing

podcasts in this country.

I've also interviewed more of the greatest fly anglers than just about anyone out there.

Deck Hogan, passion for steelhead author, steelhead guide, and expert spaycasting instructor

is here to take us back into history books of how Northwest Spay began and how Steelhead guide and expert spaycasting instructor is here to take us back into history books of how Northwest Spay began and how steelhead fishing with the spay rod took off.

We're going to talk about how to slow down your fly for more success today.

You understand where the fish are holding and how to present the fly to these fish.

And you're going to find out what happens if you get a pluck, a touch, and you're going to understand what the fish are actually doing under the water. You always out there and you feel sometimes a little bit of feedback. But what is that fish actually doing? And how do you get that fish to come back to your fly? It's all on today. Plus, you're going to hear about the crew that created the first

Skagit lines. Deck was there when they were cutting these things up for single-handed rods.

He tells a story there and how this all kicked off the Spay Revolution. Spay Nation, everything

we have gone. So it doesn't get any better than our guest today.'s find out how it all came together here he is

deck hogan how you doing deck awesome awesome great to be back dave yeah definitely uh we'll put a link

in the show notes of the episode you did in 2018 uh quite a while ago but we talked about a number of

interesting topics including your book, Passion for Steelhead

and some other things you had going. But today we're going to talk, we're going to really focus on

steelhead and spay because I think that's what you're known for, obviously. We're going to dig into that.

But before we get there, take us back real quick on your fly fishing, kind of how you get started.

What's your first memory there? Yeah. So the real quick answer isn't really quick, but I'll...

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