650 | Inside Fulling Mill with Nick Yardley - Stillwater Flies, Brook Trout, Great Lakes
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Dave Stewart
4.7 • 530 Ratings
🗓️ 26 August 2024
⏱️ 64 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/650
Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop, Togiak River Lodge
Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors
In this episode, we'll chat with Nick Yardley, the president of Fulling Mill. We dive deep into the fascinating story of how Fulling Mill became a leader in the UK and US markets, sharing insights on their top fly patterns and the meticulous process that ensures only the best end up in your fly box.
We also explore stillwater fishing, with Nick offering expert tips and his favorite flies for targeting brook trout in the Northeast. Additionally, you'll hear about his passion for the Great Lakes and why this region holds a special place in his heart for salmon and steelhead fishing.
Join us as we uncover these topics and more, giving you the knowledge to enhance your fly fishing adventures this season. Don't miss out on this insightful conversation with Nick Yardley from Fulling Mill!
Episode Chapters with Nick Yardley on Fulling Mill
1:38 - Nick shares his personal journey into fly fishing, starting from a young age with course fishing in Yorkshire, England. His interest shifted to fly fishing during a family visit to Dorset, where a gamekeeper introduced him to the sport. This experience led him to sell his match fishing gear and buy his first fly rod, albeit an unsuitable one. However, he later received a more appropriate and cherished split cane fly rod from a relative, which solidified his passion for fly fishing.
4:34 - We talk about his move from Britain to the United States in 1986. Nick explains that he didn't find the job market in Britain appealing due to high unemployment and general discontent at the time. Seeking adventure, he pursued a path in the US, leveraging his background in climbing.
8:22 - We explore the history of Fulling Mill. Its origins date back to the 1930s when Denis Whetham, a British schoolboy, took up fly tying after a rugby accident left him paralyzed. Upon returning to his family home in Kenya, he garnered local interest and even received commercial orders, leading him to pursue fly tying passionately.
Fulling Mill's flies are now widely available across US fly shops, and in 2023, they introduced a new range of fly tying materials, further solidifying their market presence.
18:00 - Nick mentions that Fulling Mill aims to be a one-stop shop for fly fishing, catering to various needs across different regions, although trout fishing constitutes 80% of their business. He also highlights their innovative approach with Euro nymphing flies, offering different weights for the same fly size and enhancing the consumer experience.
Furthermore, Fulling Mill is planning to introduce a new range of flies for warm water and specific regions by 2025, including patterns for strikers in the northeast and shrimp patterns for the Caribbean and Belize.
22:31 - Nick discusses the process of understanding market needs and providing appropriate products for fly fishing. He says that the strong feedback comes from retail stores and their servicing reps, as different territories have unique demands. He mentions Devin Olsen, a well-known figure in fly fishing who is both a signature fly tier and a shop owner, highlighting how his flies have broad national appeal.
24:18 - We dig into brook trout fishing, focusing on effective flies and ideal locations. Nick recommends using size 14, highly floatable dry flies with foam bodies, mentioning specific types like little chernobyls, ants, and beetles. He explains that when fishing for brook trout in the White Mountains of New Hampshire during the hot summer months, small black beetles work well due to the cold streams.
31:09 - Nick describes their operation in Kenya as well-established, employing about 215 people who are provided with healthcare and a retirement program, making it a desirable place to work. Most employees are around 40 years old and have been with the company for 15-20 years, showcasing their experience.
33:07 - Nick shares his experiences fishing in the Gaspe region, noting the high quality of public waters and the strong salmon stocks. He also mentions the ease of planning a fishing trip in Quebec using resources like the website saumongaspe.com.
40:00 - He finds the Great Lakes steelhead fishing to be remarkable, especially on the Salmon River. Nick says that in salmon fishing, traditionally, single-handed rods with streamers were used, but now many anglers are using two-handed rods for swinging. This method is becoming popular on the Salmon River, where it is effective for covering extensive water quickly and efficiently with big rods and classic West Coast salmon flies.
42:14 - For Atlantic salmon in rivers like the Dartmouth, York, and Saint John, Nick typically uses a 12.5ft 7wt rod, which suits most conditions. However, in narrower sections of the York River, he switches to an 11ft switch rod or a 10ft 7wt single-handed rod. For fishing in the Great Lakes, he often uses either the 11ft switch rod or the 12.5ft 7wt rod rod, which are versatile enough to cover most of his needs.
45:27 - He recommends some fly patterns to bring when you're planning to go on a fishing trip in the Gaspe for Atlantic Salmon.
47:52 - We get into fishing for brook trout in the White Mountains and the types of flies used. For flies, Nick explains that it largely depends on the fishing location and personal preference. He prefers using a dry fly setup, typically starting in July and continuing through August until the waters become too cold.
50:30 - Nick expresses a strong desire to fish in Scandinavia, specifically targeting salmon, trout, and grayling, as he has never fished there before. He notes that the salmon fisheries in Scandinavia are collapsing this year, so he would likely wait until they recover. He also mentions other destinations he wants to explore.
58:02 - For stillwater fishing, Nick suggests using a floating crane fly or dry fly crane fly, commonly known as "daddy long legs" in Britain, noting their high effectiveness despite being underutilized in other regions. He also recommends the diawl bach, a classic Welsh fly known for its consistent performance.
58:39 - We get into the random segment where I ask him about his morning drink preference. Nick reveals that he's a big tea drinker, preferring Yorkshire tea. He explains that a proper cup of tea requires a teapot, boiling water poured over the tea, and some milk. He does not recommend using an old tea bag and warm water since it doesn't produce a good cup of tea.
1:00:37 - Nick enjoys a mixture of both podcast and music, but he also listens to a lot of audiobooks. He likes listening to The Stranglers, a band he grew up with in Britain.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/650
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Have you ever walked into a fly shop and wondered who produced all of those flies you see? |
| 0:06.7 | Would you love to hear which patterns are the hottest right now for your trout species that you are targeting? |
| 0:12.1 | And are you interested in learning about brook trout fishing with a focus on the northeast part of the country? |
| 0:18.3 | Today you're going to get insight into these topics so you know how to find more of the best flies to use this season and this year on the water. This is the wet fly swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to give back to the fish species we all love. Hey, how's it going? I'm Dave, host the Webfly Swing podcast. |
| 0:39.1 | I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid. |
| 0:41.1 | I grew up around a little fly shop and have created one of the largest fly fishing |
| 0:44.2 | podcast in this country. |
| 0:45.9 | I've also interviewed more of the greatest fly anglers than just about anyone out there. |
| 0:50.7 | Nick Yardley, the head man at Folling Mill, is going to take us inside how Fuling Mill came to become one of the leaders in the UK and U.S. markets for flies. |
| 1:00.2 | You're going to find out how they choose the best flies each year and how they end up in your flybox. |
| 1:05.1 | Why he is bullish on stillwater flies and stillwater fishing and why he loves the gas bay and the great lakes for salmon and steelhead. |
| 1:13.6 | We're going to talk about that today, which is going to be great. |
| 1:16.1 | But you're going to hear how rock climbing got him to the U.S. and the big name superstar we both know and love and look up to as a mentor. |
| 1:24.7 | This is something we have in common. |
| 1:26.3 | If you ever wondered what Folling Mill means, let's find out today. Here he is. Nick Yardley from Follingmill.com. |
| 1:34.8 | How you doing, Nick? I'm doing great, Dave. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, yeah, thanks for |
| 1:38.7 | setting some time aside today to dig into Folling Mill, a company that I've heard a lot about. |
| 1:44.1 | I don't know the history, |
| 1:45.5 | so you're going to tell that today. And you guys have been out there quite a while. We're going to talk about all the products that you guys have, some of the history, like I said. And then we're going to get into maybe some brook trout. I know you love Atlantic salmon, some steelhead. We've done a lot of great lake stuff as well. So we're going to talk about all that today and pack it into one |
| 2:02.2 | podcast. |
| 2:02.7 | But before we get there, let's take it back to fly fishing. How did you get into it? What's your first memory? I mean, I like a lot of people. I started really young and fishing about five years old. Just a light bulb went off above my head and this is it. This is what I want to do. I grew up in Yorkshire, England, amongst the dark, satanic mills of the old textile industry. |
| 2:22.0 | And I started off by course fishing, you know, fishing for bream, roach, perch, and so forth in the canals and rivers of the area. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dave Stewart, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Dave Stewart and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

