65: 6. The Cold War Context and the Tragedy of a Government-Controlled Space Program. Bob Zimmerman discusses how the Apollo 8 mission was embedded in the global Cold War and the extreme chaos of 1968, marked by political turmoil and assassinations. The space

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6. The Cold War Context and the Tragedy of a Government-Controlled Space Program. Bob Zimmerman discusses how the Apollo 8 mission was embedded in the global Cold War and the extreme chaos of 1968, marked by political turmoil and assassinations. The space race was intended as a demonstration that America, as a free society, could achieve great things better than the Soviet top-down system. While the astronauts were military veterans, the author disputes the notion that NASA was a military operation, emphasizing that it was run by civilian engineers and managers. Ironically, despite the goal of celebrating freedom, President Kennedy adopted a centralized, top-down, government-run structure—a "Soviet style" program. This centralized approach proved to be a tragedy, as the mission became viewed as a singular stunt. Once the moon landing was achieved, the program lost political and financial support, resulting in a "dead end" for future solar system exploration.
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0:00.0	I'm John Batchel with Bob Zimmerman. His book is Genesis, The Story of Apollo 8, the first man flight to another world.
0:07.6	We've been hurrying with NASA to lunar orbit. We pause now because this is taking place inside the Cold War, which, for those of us who lived through it, was massive.
0:19.6	Every moment there was the possibility of nuclear weapons exchanges.
0:25.0	In fact, there were many instances during the Cold War
0:27.4	where accidents could have led to catastrophe that we can only speculate about now.
0:33.9	At the same time, Bob, throughout his story, relates ongoing crises that very much are backdrops to NASA's striving to reach the moon.
0:45.5	Remember, it was a mission set by Jack Kennedy, who dies tragically, involved in the fantasies of a young man who had defected to the Soviet Union
0:55.9	and then pretended to be either anti-Cuban or pro-Cuban.
1:01.1	And Kennedy's mission was passed off to Lyndon Johnson.
1:05.1	Linden Johnson applies himself, builds the Houston Man Space Program,
1:09.7	and continues at the same time to involve the U.S.
1:13.4	in the Vietnam War, their civil rights at home, and the Berlin crisis, which he inherited from
1:20.0	Jack Kennedy. At the same time, there was a Cuban Missile Crisis. I could go on with crises,
1:25.6	invasions, Prague Spring of 68. This chaos, I was a young person at the time in
1:32.6	university. This chaos was all presented to us as the way of the world. You just get used to this
1:39.2	chaos, but it always was backed up by nuclear weapons. NASA was seen as outside of the military contest,
1:48.4	but as I read Bob's recitation and remind myself, this was a race to be the superior
1:56.2	culture over the Soviet Union, which had been bragging and boasting of its Roscosmos.
2:03.7	Bob, I want to go back even further.
2:05.5	Khrushchev, who was replaced in 64 by Brezhnev, was a man who drove the Roskosmos program.
2:13.3	And the United States didn't know that.
2:15.4	We didn't know that they were stunts.
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