644: You Have to Invert

Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment

Technology

4.3 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 142 minutes

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Summary

Pre-show: G4 Doorbell Pro
- Bespoke 3D-printed mount
- Fancy-schmancy Marco-recommended Flashlight
What betas are we running?
- Virtual Buddy
𝑥OS 26 & Version Numbers
- iOS Apps built against old SDKs get 19.0; new ones get 26.0 (via Gui Rambo)
  - ProcessInfo
  - /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersionCompat.plist
- Tahoe returns 16 when reqiured for compatibility and 26 otherwise (via Howard Oakley)
  - SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1 = 16
  - null or SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=0 = 26
Liquid Glass
- Adopting Liquid Glass
  - Don’t Liquid Glass All the Things
- Not present in macOS? (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
- Liquid Glass clone in Flutter (via Dave Wood)
- Fluid Glass in React (via Francisco Tolmasky)
macOS Tahoe
- Whimsy returns! (via Minimal Nerd)
- Squircle Jail
  - Squircle ∆ (via Yannic Lung)
  - Say Hello to the New Look of App Icons
  - Squircle Jailbreak! (via Simon B Støvring)
- Speaking of rounded corners…
  - Build an AppKit App with the New Design
- Chonky stoplights
  - macOS 26 window control buttons are no longer smol (via Avi Drissman)
  - -[NSTitledFrame sizeOfTitlebarButtons]
- Missing title bars
- Missing menu bar fixes
  - GlassBar
  - Boring Old Menu Bar
- Alignment
- Finder icon controversy
  - Stephen tried Icon Composer with solid results
  - Michael Flarup
  - D. Griffin Jones
- Icons next to menu items
  - Previously in the HIG (via Stefan Habel)
  - Today in the HIG
- Tabs contrast
  - Terminal tabs
- Safari contrast
  - Ridiculous pink in the toolbar in Safari
- Arrow cursor has been updated
  - Discovery by Nathan Manceaux-Panot
  - Hand cursor as well
- Floating elements & compartmentalization
- Clipboard history
  - Stephen Robles
  - Overview video
- Future of Rosetta
  - Ars Technica
- New disk image format: ASIF
  - Howard Oakley write-up
iOS 26
- UI impressions
- New slider thumbs reveal new info (via Niki Tonsky)
  - Video
iPadOS 26
- Open window limits (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
  - Previously, in Mac OS X 10.0…
- Slideover is 💀
- UI impressions
Testing Liquid Glass
- UIDesignRequiresCompatibility
Vision Pro 4K? (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
Post-show: WWDC Favorites
Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple snubbed Gruber, so who got the nod?

Transcript

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0:00.0	I could do my preface in the pre-show if you don't have anything.
0:03.4	No, that's not fun.
0:04.3	That's not fun?
0:05.0	You know what it is.
0:06.8	The preface is written right there.
0:09.0	I know.
0:09.5	Well, I think it could be fun.
0:11.8	You and I have different definitions of fun, I think, unless you have some sort of bombshell that you're trying to draw.
0:16.7	Hey, I was deferring to both of you.
0:18.4	Hey, have you got a pre-show? You came up with nothing. I've got something at least.
0:22.3	Yeah, but it's like, isn't it administrative?
0:24.3	That's not a pre-show.
0:25.2	Oh, I have a, I have a pre-show that Marco may end up dropping on the floor and may end up being just for the bootleg.
0:30.6	Is it administrative?
0:31.9	No, no. All right, John, you had a question to start the main part of the show.
0:39.6	What's going on?
0:40.7	Yeah, obviously, there's a lot of follow-up on this show, and I realized assembling this,
0:45.1	that the follow-up, at least from my part, is heavily influenced by which of the new
0:49.9	operating systems announced at WWC that I personally have been using.
0:53.4	So I thought I would start by saying what I'm using and asking you that I personally have been using. So I thought I would start by
0:54.9	saying what I'm using and asking you to what you've been using. There's only a bit of week since
0:59.2	WWC, they revved all the new OSs, all the betas are out. I somewhat painfully installed a MacOS
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