Well, welcome to Michael and us.

I'm Will Sloan.

Here is always with.

Luke Savage, welcome back, everyone.

Will and I are not in the same room for this one.

We are several hundred

kilometers apart. I am overlooking a lake actually in, not well, not quite northern Ontario,

but Northern Ontario relative to Toronto. And it's very nice. I'm doing some work up here,

pretty grueling work actually, but it's a nicer place to do grueling work. And you are back at the,

where are you? I can't quite tell from the background. Is this the Dalton McGinty Studios or one of our other properties? That's right. It's the Dalton McGinty Studios. And I guess you're working on a book project probably. I'm not going to ask you what it is, but some sort of book project. I am probably working on a book project. That would be, I mean, I can't confirm or deny, but that would be not bad speculation.

Well, I remember that I was working on my book project last year when I halted the work day to

hop on a Zoom call with you to talk about Polly Shores, Polyt politics. I'll always remember watching that on my

lovely writing excursion at a family member's cottage. Oh, God, that one was particularly

painful, wasn't it? Can I just raise Time Magazine's 100 best podcasts of all time just dropped?

So I guess you haven't seen this list. Oh my God. No.

Holy shit. Yet another list we're snubbed from. So look, it's all your favorite shows. It's the

obvious things. It's such underdogs as Conan O'Brien needs a friend. The Daily from the New York

Times. Oh, you'll love this. The Ezra Klein Show made the cut.

Here's another good one.

Fresh Air from NPR.

You ever heard of that famous podcast, Fresh Air?

It's been on NPR for like a zillion billion years.

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