It's time for episode 640 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, January 21st, 2026.

Clockwise, four people,, where we've turned over a new leaf, but kept the same clock.

I am one of your hosts, Micah, Sergeant, and I am joined across the internet by my good pal, my dear friend, the one, the only, Dan, the man.

Morton. How you doing, Dan?

I'm doing well. I'm trying to imagine what would happen if we had picked a different clock.

Like, would it have fewer hours, more hours? Would the hours be a different length?

That's considered clocks for a while, shall we?

Hmm, different clocks.

While we think about different clocks, let me introduce you to different people joining us this week, investigative journalist at Consumer Reports.

And the, I know, I know you've heard enough about it, Paris, but for everyone else, the person who has

saved people from lead poisoning, it's Paris Martinel.

Welcome back to the show, Paris.

Thanks so much for having me.

I just to state for the record, I think they should make a clock that's like a long oval.

I think they should try to figure that out.

And to my left this week, it is editor at large at 9 to 5 Mac. Zach Hall. Welcome back, Zach.

Hello, thanks for having me. You know how this show works. We've got 30 minutes for topics.

And we should get underway. Mine for you is this. I'm just curious to hear your thoughts on Netflix's

at the time upcoming, but now happening, live voting sort of real-time streaming show.

Is history repeating itself? Are we returning to the times of American Idol? And what do we think

about Netflix being the host of these sort of live happening, live voting situations?

Paris, we'll start with you.

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