64. Is Northern Ireland's peace about to break?
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
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🗓️ 10 April 2021
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
As scenes of violence in Northern Ireland cause shock and fear, is the 23-year-old Good Friday Agreement which ended The Troubles in danger? What's really going on - is this all about Brexit and the Bobby Storey funeral, or are other factors at play?
This show interviews four voices to uncover the real truth: the writer and solicitor Sarah Creighton, loyalist commentator Julie-Anne Corr-Johnston, Sinn Fein MP Chris Hazzard and Seán Byers of the anti-sectarian Trademark Belfast.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Owen Jones, welcome to the podcast. Today, scenes of violence in Northern Ireland |
| 0:05.5 | streets have raised the question, is the peace process under threat exactly 23 years since the |
| 0:13.1 | Good Friday agreement was signed, ending a conflict, the troubles which had taken the lives |
| 0:18.9 | of over three and a half thousand people. Today we'll be looking at exactly what is going on. |
| 0:26.4 | Is this all about Brexit and the Northern Ireland protocol, which establishes a de facto |
| 0:32.1 | border down the Irish Sea? Is this about anger over Sinn Fein figures, who eight months ago attended |
| 0:39.6 | the funeral of Bobby Story, one of their own and allegedly breaking social distancing rules? |
| 0:45.4 | Is this about unionist leaders, not least the DUP, whipping up anger and resentment in their |
| 0:51.5 | own communities? How much is this about disaffection in communities with high levels of deprivation |
| 0:58.4 | blighted by social injustice? And is this about other factors too? We're going to be talking to a |
| 1:04.8 | range of voices, a Republican, a loyalist, someone who works on a non-sectarian basis with all |
| 1:13.2 | communities in the labour movement, and to begin with, we talk to writer and solicitor Sarah Crater |
| 1:21.3 | and we talk first of all about whether this is all really about Brexit. |
| 1:28.4 | When people say this is just about Brexit, what would you say? No, I mean obviously Brexit is |
| 1:36.3 | part of this and certainly, you know, some of the reason for the violence at the moment is because |
| 1:41.5 | people are very angry, and they're very angry with the Northern Ireland protocol, but what I would |
| 1:45.7 | say to that is a lot of people here are also Brexiters, so Brexit itself is not, it is the problem, |
| 1:51.7 | but if you take Brexit at an equation, that doesn't solve the problem. So what I would say to people |
| 1:56.6 | is in addition to this being about the protocol, this is also about policing in Northern Ireland, |
| 2:01.5 | so for some people who are very angry at the moment, not necessarily people that are riding, |
| 2:06.2 | and I'll come on to that in a minute, but the people that are very angry at the moment, they are |
| 2:10.0 | angry by the PSNI. There was a funeral last year for a Republican cobalt be story, it was |
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