Welcome back to the Lincoln Project.

I'm your host, Reed Galen.

Today, I'm joined by Shira Frinkle, who covers cybersecurity for the New York Times.

Previously, she spent over a decade in the Middle East as a foreign correspondent reporting

for Buzzfeed, NPR, The Times of London, and Maclatchy.

She recently published a book with her New York Times colleagues to seal Yacong, called

An Ugly Truth Inside Facebook's Vital for Domination.

Shira, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much for having me.

So, you know, today on the show, I want to talk about Facebook, and then I want to talk

some more about Facebook, and then we'll finish with Facebook.

So I listened to it, and it was a great listen.

It felt like almost every chapter started with something that Facebook shouldn't have

done.

Them apologizing for it in a pretty hollow and transparent way.

And then someone, whether it was Zuckerberg or Sandberg, blaming someone else for the

fact they got bad press.

So is that a pretty good indication of just how they sort of operate?

It's certainly a pattern that repeated itself throughout the book.

I mean, I think more broadly, what we found reporting this was that over and over again,

Facebook waits for something to become a huge problem that kind of blows up in a public

way before they address it.

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