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The Andrew Gold Show (Heretics)

638. Dom Joly v Andrew Gold: Islamism, Lebanon & Britain’s Future

The Andrew Gold Show (Heretics)

Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.31.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Trigger Happy TV legend Dom Joly clashes with Andrew Gold on Islam, immigration, woke culture Watch our bonus chat on https://andrewgoldheretics.com  - GET TICKETS FOR DOM'S 2026 TOUR HERE: https://www.domjoly.tv/live  - Follow him on https://x.com/domjoly  Trigger Happy TV legend Dom Joly joins Andrew Gold on Heretics for a fiery yet nuanced debate on the Lebanonization of Europe, mass immigration, radical Islamism, and Britain's future. Growing up in war-torn Lebanon, Dom shares stories of Beirut life, the civil war's causes involving Palestinians and shifting alliances, and why Lebanon became a proxy battleground. SPONSORS: Get an exclusive 15% discount on Saily data plans! Use code andrewgold at checkout. Download Saily app or go to https://saily.com/andrewgold   Check Plaud UK: https://bit.ly/40Gzdh1  | US: https://bit.ly/475MQKe Notepro: https://bit.ly/479tWSR Organise your life: https://akiflow.pro/Heretics  Earn up to 4 per cent on gold, paid in gold: https://www.monetary-metals.com/heretics/  Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics  They clash over Islamization fears, g gangs and watch lists, Shamima Begum, pausing Muslim immigration, belief systems vs race, and Jewish concerns about antisemitism. Dom, a centrist absurdist who is anti extremes, debates woke victimhood on left and right, the anywhere vs somewhere divide, Brexit regrets, Reform sympathy, Hungary's border fence, cousin marriage and online tribalism that stops real talk. A centrist vs concerned Jew debate packed with nuance, swearing, and hard truths that both sides will hate. #Heretics #DomJoly #Islamization Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com  Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates  Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok   Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 00:00 Dom Joly Highlights 1:10 Arguing Addiction and Online Fights 5:10 Lebanon's Past Paradise: Skiing, Beaches and Best Food 9:00 Lebanon Civil War Causes and Palestinian Role 13:30 Worries Over Islamization and Muslim Immigration 21:25 Jewish Fears, Belief Systems and Banning Immigration 25:25 Woke Definition: Tribal Victimhood on Left and Right 29:50 How Anywhere vs Somewhere People Divide 38:00 Pakistan Views on Jews, Cousin Marriage and Cultural Change 42:50 Moderate Voices Missing and Online Tribalism 47:20 Hungary Border Wall and Fighting Age Migrants 52:15 Cousin Marriage Ban, National Identity and Belief Vacuum 59:00 A Heretic Dom Admires Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:02.2

Hello! You grew up in Lebanon at the time of the Civil War. A lot of people are concerned about what

1:06.8

some people have called the Lebanonization of Europe. Lebanon. Lebanon. No. Lebanon. Yeah, there we go. So what's your right wing part, apart from banning all Muslims? I begrudgingly do that. Yeah, but still. I've seen what happened in so many countries in the Middle East. But there's a difference to the Middle East. I mean, Lebanon specifically is a really important one because it was technically a majority Christian country. Do you know that? New Wear People versus Some Where People. No. Some people are somewhere people. They live in one street their entire lives. And that street changes. No, I totally get that premise. And actually it softens me a little bit. That's a much more interesting description. And I really like that. Fifteen years ago, the BBC Channel 4, they made documentaries about this.

1:46.0

We've passed the event horizon. They can't make those documentaries anymore.

1:49.0

There's a level of wokeery in our institutions, which has gone absolutely crazy.

1:54.0

Have I brought new information to you?

1:55.0

Yes, 100%.

1:56.0

I wanted to make you more concerned about Islamism without hating individual Muslim people. Your argument there was really interesting and it was coherent and it was balanced. What I want is someone that listens and someone that changes their mind when the facts change. God, am I going to come out of this? For those who don't know you, probably a small percentage of my audience. I've thought a vast amount of your audience. I have no idea who I am. I bet most, most do, but... I think I've probably argued with most of your audience in my comments on my social media. That's possible. I've seen you popping in the comments on Facebook. I just, I can't, yeah, I've got a real problem. I can't, I just love arguing. And I do lots of traveling. So most people read a book. I just go into my comments and fight once. Do you have a wife who's trying to pull you back?

2:36.0

Oh yeah, totally.

2:36.9

So my wife is constantly, she's Canadian for a start. So she's like the complete antithesis to me. She apologises to everyone. She's constantly apologising for me. She talks to strangers. And any time I'm sort of, you know, she tries to say something. She says, you're

2:51.0

arguing with someone online again. I just, you know, what can I do? I think people watching can relate. I think we're all getting a bit that way. Well, I think it's the modern disease. And I genuinely, you know, I laugh about it, but you know, I was just in Lamu, which is a 96% Sunni Muslim island off the coast of Somalia, which I'm saying

3:08.0

when I'm trying to sound cool, but it's actually Kenya.

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